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Obama has agreed to 80 percent of Iran's demands in nuclear talks

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posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
The page also say the following


"An Obama administration official dismissed the claims in the Channel 10 report as "complete nonsense."


Just like they dismiss the idea that Benghazi was a terror attack and not just a spontaneous demonstration over some Internet video that only had about 1,000 hits?




posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: Answer
It certainly seems like Iran is now playing ball with the globalists.

The war drums have died down.


After Bushes little crusades a war of agression in Iran would be politicaly impossible.

Apart from the most stupid a dementia inflicted politicians most people in DC with even half a braincell knows war would be impossible on political grounds.


Sure a few blockheads may be happy to go off to war. But im thinking the majority would say enough.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
Leave the Iranians alone. Quit supporting Israel.


Iran-Backed Rebels Just Sacked Yemen's Presidential Palace

How about quit supporting Iran ?

And cutting 'deals' with them.


So what?

Thats yemens and irans problem.

Dont see why the USA or the west in general should give a dam.



Wrong that is the US's problem.

Iranian Weapons 'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says

U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq

U.S. military says Iran behind rising deaths

Record Number of U.S. Troops Killed by Iranian Weapons

Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander Killed By Sniper Fire In Iraq

This is we should give a damn.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I am more inclined to believe what they say than my own government,

For the past 6 years it's been lie after LIE.


Respectfully...

When a lot of your Foreign Policy is influenced by what Israel demand...

You can bet they've had a hand in that.


Bull snip.

The US doesn't do ANYTHING it doesn't want to.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
Who cares what Israel thinks...let the results speak for themselves.

I think it is a sound idea to negotiate some form of resolution to these nuclear differences and troubles. Israel doesn't want Iran to have nuclear energy, and remaining in that stance will get us no where. Personally, i think that Israel should own up and allow nuclear inspections into their own programs if they are so keen to strip Iran of its nuclear energy...that won't happen though!


How is giving someone 80% of what they want a "negotiation?" I realize that the GOP uses this tactic endlessly because that's the deep game at work. Give the democrats 80% of what they want take 20% in future concessions that are dependent on future congresses to uphold so they will never materialize, but it gets very blatant when they play the same game with Iran.

*pssst* "Ok, Iran, this is how it works. We give you most of this. You cut off some stuff you can live without for now. You decide what. Then we'll ask for some concessions, but you only agree to fulfill them in 10 years or so. By then, no one remembers and we all have different leadership that can't be held accountable to that agreement WE make. So basically, you get all the important stuff with no strings."



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
Leave the Iranians alone. Quit supporting Israel.


Iran-Backed Rebels Just Sacked Yemen's Presidential Palace

How about quit supporting Iran ?

And cutting 'deals' with them.


So what?

Thats yemens and irans problem.

Dont see why the USA or the west in general should give a dam.



Wrong that is the US's problem.

Iranian Weapons

'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says


U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq

U.S. military says Iran behind rising deaths

Record Number of U.S. Troops Killed by Iranian Weapons

Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander Killed By Sniper Fire In Iraq

This is we should give a damn.



And tne USA supplys arms and military equipment to Irans enemys

MAYBE just MAYBE getting around a table and talking my be a step in stopping that.

It sanctions and threats of war that likely HAS Iran supplying weapons to US enemys.

So it figures more sanction ect wont stop anything.

That leaves 2 options
A) war
B) getting round a table and talking


What would you have tbe US do?
Continueing on the same path it seems is pointless.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Wish I could believe that.


I admire your confidence though.




posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I am more inclined to believe what they say than my own government,

For the past 6 years it's been lie after LIE.


Respectfully...

When a lot of your Foreign Policy is influenced by what Israel demand...

You can bet they've had a hand in that.


Bull snip.

The US doesn't do ANYTHING it doesn't want to.





posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

MIss the GD topic ?

Nice straw man.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: neo96

Wish I could believe that.


I admire your confidence though.



No that isn't confidence.

That is over a decade of political experience speaking.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
Leave the Iranians alone. Quit supporting Israel.



Yep, even though Iranians wish death upon innocent children.
edit on 30-1-2015 by chuck258 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: daaskapital
Who cares what Israel thinks...let the results speak for themselves.

I think it is a sound idea to negotiate some form of resolution to these nuclear differences and troubles. Israel doesn't want Iran to have nuclear energy, and remaining in that stance will get us no where. Personally, i think that Israel should own up and allow nuclear inspections into their own programs if they are so keen to strip Iran of its nuclear energy...that won't happen though!


How is giving someone 80% of what they want a "negotiation?" I realize that the GOP uses this tactic endlessly because that's the deep game at work. Give the democrats 80% of what they want take 20% in future concessions that are dependent on future congresses to uphold so they will never materialize, but it gets very blatant when they play the same game with Iran.

*pssst* "Ok, Iran, this is how it works. We give you most of this. You cut off some stuff you can live without for now. You decide what. Then we'll ask for some concessions, but you only agree to fulfill them in 10 years or so. By then, no one remembers and we all have different leadership that can't be held accountable to that agreement WE make. So basically, you get all the important stuff with no strings."


Let's put it this way: everyone here does not know exactly what the current negotiations contain. We don't know how much the USA is willing to concede. We have Israeli reports of 80%, and we have US officials denying that.

Don't be so quick to jump on the bandwagon and believe # you read. Especially information from sources with vested interests in what they are saying.
edit on 30-1-2015 by daaskapital because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: neo96

No I havent

Your dodging the queation as always.

Seeing as sanctions at best are not working and at worse causeing Iran to lash out what would you have the US do?

A)war
B)negosiation

what would you have them do? Come on mr I have all the awnsers?

Now seeing as US military involvement in the ME and attempts at nation building has hardly been a sucess I dont see what good A would do.


And yes your argument over iran weapon sales is false out rage as the US is going supply Irans enemys with F-35's!
Not to mention McCain nearly had tne US arming ISIS.
edit on 30-1-2015 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:26 PM
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Let's put it this way:

How about people doing a little research .

U.S. Releases Another $1 Billion to Iran Iran has received $2.55 billion since February


Obama to Pay Iran $11.9 Billion to Iran through End of Nuke Talks in June

It's not just the op.

There is a plethora of information on what is currently going on between the US ,and Iran that should not being going on.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Did not dodge a GD THING.

With Iran having thousands of Americans blood on their hands.

The US should not be negotiating with them at all.

They back the Assad regime.

They overthrew the Yemen's government.

So stop with the GD red herring's.


edit on 30-1-2015 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

Did not dodge a GD THING.

With Iran having thousands of Americans blood on their hands.

The US should not be negotiating with them at all.

They back the Assad regime.

The overthrew the Yemenese government.

So stop with the GD red herring's.



Current policy is clearly not working.

Either the USA

A) goes to war

B) negostiates.


And again stop with the stupid false out rage over iran selling weapons.
Hoe many have been killed by US arms sales?
US has no moral high ground.


Im not throwing up any red herrings you are just clueless on what the US should do.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: daaskapital

I'm just saying that it wouldn't surprise me at all given this administration's moves in the Middle East to date. It also wouldn't surprise me given all the love lost between this administration and Netanyahu. I don't think it's above the admin at all to take it out in these negotiations. I do think they are that petty.



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

The PSYOP is Cloward and Piven with psudo-Islamist ANTICOLONIALIST sympathies



posted on Jan, 30 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok

Did not dodge a GD THING.

With Iran having thousands of Americans blood on their hands.

The US should not be negotiating with them at all.


I have no doubt there is Iranian influence behind much of the conflict in the middle east. Same can be said for American influence, even Russian influence. Iran is a middle power in the middle east, they will have influence in the events in the middle east whether we like it or not. It's important we learn to work with them, negotiate, it's the only alternative to direct conflict. What would you rather do Neo?

Sanctions? How have sanctions been working over the last 10 years Neo? Hasn't changed anything.
Not negotiating? What does that do?? What has years of not negotiating with the Iranians done Neo?

If you can better explain an effective alternative here, that'd be great Neo. For somebody so outraged with these negotiations going on surely there's a great solution you know of that we don't.



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