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originally posted by: RoScoLaz4
if a visit to an abbattoir won't clearly demonstate why animals' deaths are different to that of plants, then frankly i don't know what will.
originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
Yeh. I don't get it either. I know that I know that I know that plants are much more advanced beings than animals. You know?
originally posted by: artistpoet
a reply to: Eunuchorn
My point is about respect ... and also toleration of other's choices
Why do you think Vegans choose to not eat honey ?
originally posted by: 3n19m470
Seriously though? I dunno... maybe because it's possible to eat a plant without killing it? But maybe it should be ok to eat an animal if it died of old age or an injury, too? I don't really know...
originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: nenothtu
You and 3n19m470 are making an interesting point.
If the objection is the taking of life of another being, vegans would not mind eating things (plants, animals) that died naturally, I guess?
Fruits and seeds have been living tissue at some point too, before being separated from the plant.
originally posted by: nenothtu
originally posted by: artistpoet
a reply to: Eunuchorn
My point is about respect ... and also toleration of other's choices
Why do you think Vegans choose to not eat honey ?
A vegetarian told me that she doesn't eat honey because it's "bee vomit" - evidently the issue wasn't that it was made by bees, but rather HOW it was made by bees.
I just said "Cool - that leave more bee vomit for ME then!"
originally posted by: Calalini
Great thread, OP. I can completely understand not wanting to support the cruel meat industry, but as others pointed out, plants are life as well. Also, killing your own food is as natural and normal as breathing and defecating. Life eats life, fools. A lion would eat you in a heartbeat, with no moral compunction whatsoever. If society crumbled tomorrow, you'd see how all those vaunted morals will fly right out the window when the plant eaters and their children are starving to death.
originally posted by: hoonsince89
I am vegan and i see it like this. Yes plants are conscious just as animals, but plants are connected to the earth and the earth spirit provides us with life, where as animals are their own spirit. They come here to learn, experience and grow as do we. Taking the life of a plant that is provided for us by the planet that provides us with life is much different than taking the life of an entity that has come here to experience.