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originally posted by: Shadytloc
This may horrify the OP.
I do a lot of thinking about your topic but in a different way. When I see an animal, any animal, i tend to wonder how it tastes. This is not limited to "normal" food animals like cows and pigs and i am sure im not the only one. I would absolutely like to try dog, cat, dolphin,whale, whatever. Im sure that our society is missing out on a lot of deliciousness. Do you really think our neolithic ancestors got choosey? Look! Animals! Dinner! I propose the opposite of stopping the consumption of meat. Lets eat all meat (except humans)!
Let the flames begin.
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
I congratulate you for being a vegetarian all your life.
But I had tried and can not do it, I love meat too much and my body loves it too.
originally posted by: charles911
I found this alternative , instead of killing animals for meat you can have this type of meat :
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
These turd burgers are most likely what NASA has great interest in...
originally posted by: hhott
Blah blah blah
originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: hhott
Well put.
I strongly doubt the op will touch your comment in any meaningful fashion though.
He appears to only like talking to those who agree with him.
He only insults, pidgeon holes, and disregards those who disagree.
To answer your last question.
It's cultural, we're raised to see cats and dogs as companions.
Not food.
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Show one shred of evidence to back up the animals dont have sentience ignorance that has just cropped up.
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Show one shred of evidence to back up the animals dont have sentience ignorance that has just cropped up.
How about you show one scrap of evidence that plants don't have sentience....
Let me help you with that there is zero evidence to back up that plants do not have sentience....
originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: hhott
To answer your last question.
It's cultural, we're raised to see cats and dogs as companions.
Not food.
originally posted by: hhott
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
No sir, that's not at all what I said.
Ok, so I watch too much sci-fi. By "sentient" I meant the mental capacity for self-awareness, thinking, the ability to use logic and complex thinking, the ability to have a concept of the "future" and plan one's own future actions based on reasoning or consideration of abstract concepts, the ability to understand concepts such as "right" and "wrong," the ability to create, and so forth, which has nothing to do with blood or genetics. If you are religious, then the Bible itself tells us that humans are the only beings on Earth who have the knowledge of "right and wrong," if you don't then science has plenty of guidelines for how the consciousness and mental capabilities of animals differ from humans.
I did not say I don't care about animals - I do. How many have YOU personally rescued or saved? I've lost count, but it's over 100 at least for me and not all of them were dogs or cats. I SAID that livestock animals are specifically and deliberately bred for consumption as food, and that the balance of life on planet Earth is dependent on the predator-prey system, and that the "golden rule" can't properly be applied to animals who can't understand right and wrong (or "good" and "evil").
If you think the "golden rule" is appropriate to the issue of eating meat, and that there is "no difference in animals and humans," then go and debate your moral and ethical issues with animals who eat meat, such as a wolf, cougar, tiger, or grizzly bear. (And please take along someone to video the results for me).
If you want to debate with me, I'd love to. But please address what I actually said, and please tell me if the morality you wish to discuss is based on religion or not, so that I don't have to keep addressing both.