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Varginha Alien, the Brazilian Roswell.

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posted on Jul, 14 2005 @ 12:40 PM
google search for Hynek fraud
lots of info...
specific instances:
astronaut comments in Hyneks book

also his connections to known disinfo agents...and government agents
this excerpt mentions a meeting with interesting individuals regarding NICAP, and the american security council...


For about five months, off and on, we negotiated with Hartranft, Richardson, and Charles Lombard, an acknowledged former CIA employee and aide to Senator Barry Goldwater. Also involved in the negotiations was Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Scientific Director of the Center for UFO Studies. Richardson and Lombard at first seemed interested in reviving NICAP. . . . But the negotiations dragged on without anything being resolved. The main thing that struck all of us at this time was the complete ignorance of UFO history, UFO groups, and prominent UFOlogists displayed by these Board Members. We wondered if there were some hidden agenda behind their machinations.

In short... I am starting to think that he knows to many people who he should despise, to be on the right side of the issue here...
maybe he did change teams, and is our hero...
but IMO that he still serves his original master...

I dunno.... but I have lots more reading to do from all the links that came up from search terms :J allen Hynek fraud disinfo

posted on Jul, 14 2005 @ 12:41 PM

You'll be happy then to hear that A. J. Gevaerd has removed himself as head of the CBU.

Saying that his role in Brazilian disclosure has been fulfilled, and that he believes his role as a jurnalist now should be to cover the story , not to create the story.

[edit on 14-7-2005 by lost_shaman]

posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 03:03 AM

I was dead set in thinking that J allen Hynek was a disinfo specialist

yeah, well ufology is flawed too. remember, hynek was pioneering much of this pseudo'culture' weve got today.

perhaps in the coldwar climate of project bluebook, hynek willingly dispersed disinformation. the man was the head consultant to the airforce during project bluebook. thats where swamp gas came from.

in more recent writings, hynek confirmed there was a definate agenda by bluebook to end curiosity once and for all. hynek entering the subject a genuine skeptic had no problem promoting those answers.

hynek also has commented that his involvment in bluebook convinced him atleast to the reality of the ufo phenomena, although he never vouched for its nature. he left the project with new curiosity.

throughout the years, his personal interest probably kept him up to date in ufology and his respected position granted him access to old sources.

and so it is likely that hynek willingly or unwillingly continued to promote more disinformation.

but i think he was generally a good guy.

[edit on 25-7-2005 by lost]

posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 11:22 AM

great link for me, as this site has loads of info, how do they knwo so much deatil about the nordics they have done a autopsy??
good site.

posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 01:41 PM
I did a writeup not too long ago on it, if looking for more info.....

posted on Nov, 2 2005 @ 02:04 PM
I find that incident very intersting as well as the rest of that site, i put a thread on ere once askin what other species are there, and they seem to have a lot of info, i have read a few of ur posts and u seem an old hand at all this UFO stuff.....

WE WANT DISCLOSURE!! LOL or at least i think i do...

posted on Aug, 2 2007 @ 04:18 PM
I knew I'd read an in-depth piece by Gazrok at one time or another on "THE VARGINHA CASE : The Brazilian Roswell?". '2005. Superior workmanship, finest quality. An ATS thread link. and when searching I found a discussion from '04 with some great Gevaerd links (some mat be out of date and some do require Spanish but will convert with Google or Babel'.



EDIT: To add URL for 2004 ATS thread link with the links.

[edit on 2-8-2007 by V Kaminski]

posted on May, 23 2008 @ 04:12 PM
Varginha is a city near mine here in Brazil...

I heard a lot of hystories about it, and tyhe city became famous because of the Et's. I heard that people from Nasa came here to see what happened...

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