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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: midicon
If that were your daughter, you should be more concerned as to why you did not give her the proper mental-health care that she so obviously needed. You should be more concerned with what in her life had brought her to the point of two attempted suicides (from what I've read...that could be inaccurate) and then this scenario where she walks into a police station and assaults a police officer multiple times until she is shot dead.
If that were your daughter, I'd be concerned about her actions and yours as her parent. And if you really would "finalise [your] affairs and plan the most effective means of retaliation," then I'd fully understand where her mental instability originated.
“It’s probably one of the highest levels of threats we can face,” said Steve Summerville, president of Stay Safe Instructional Programs and a retired staff sergeant with Toronto Police, speaking knives and other sharp-edged weapons.
“They are silent, they require no skill, no training, they’re easily concealed,” he said. “If you have the ability to move your hand you can cause life-threatening, if not fatal, injuries.”
Although mass shootings have dominated headlines, it’s knives, more than guns, that concern Chris Roberts, managing director of Safe International.
“Both are very frightening,” Roberts said, “but in my opinion, if both are in close range, a knife is more dangerous … it can come at you from so many different angles.”
Even the idea of preparing for a knife fight seems like “an oxymoron,” Summerville said, since there is no way to guarantee a high level of safety.
... It’s possible that had the attacker been armed with a firearm more would have been injured or killed, but there is no question that edged weapons are as deadly as firearms, particularly when one considers that the majority of lethal force encounters with guns are easily within knife range. In many ways, the wounds they inflict are more painful and long-lasting than gunshot wounds.
The police recognize this, and competent police training includes the Tueller drill, which comes from an insight and research by police officer Dennis Tueller. An attacker armed with a knife can close a distance of at least 21 feet, perhaps more, before a defender armed with a firearm can react, draw, fire and stop them. This is true of the average person armed with a knife, not a trained martial artist. Therefore, virtually anyone holding a knife within 21 feet represents a potentially lethal threat.
A single attacker armed with a knife, particularly in a crowd, can cause substantial damage, as was demonstrated in this case. Too many media commentators know little or nothing about weapons and tactics. Firearms are not magical death machines. Each and every one must be properly and carefully aimed, and more than 80% of those hit by handgun bullets do not die.
originally posted by: network dude
...I would hope that any and all posters would try to look at events as individual events as they certainly are. Just because you have a deep hatred for the police, doesn't mean that every event is the cops fault. Members of this site usually rise to the occasion. Some don't, but most do.
For the most part, their full of crap and armchair quarterbacks with nothing in the fight except an screen name, and avatar, and their opinions. For others of us, we have a little more to consider.
originally posted by: real_one
a reply to: network dude
TWell, maybe they were doing terrible things and were pure evil. But, until you have some facts, you know nothing. Why did an innocent girl walk into a police station with a knife? xt
Here's some facts, multiple officers shot a teen-aged girl multiple times when lesser force could have been used. Do you honestly believe that her and her knife (the knife cannot even be confirmed at this point) were a real threat to these officers?
Personally, I doubt that she was a lethal threat.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
Other than that, you can keep your little what-if-they-had-these-physical-attribute scenarios to yourself, because they are a pointless discussion.
originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: thesaneone
El WRONGO. Car wasn allegedly stolen - cops were there because of a suspicious car (it wasn't suspicious), some reports say it was a family members car. Even if it were stolen.. when I was young kids used to joy ride - they didn't get murdered for it.
Second the cop wasn't really injured. Lie two. He was upset at the girls for filming him and pulled his gun. He was beside the car when he shot (not in danger). If he were in front of the car.. then he's even dumber than I thought because killing the driver would assure he was hit.
Yeah sorry you apologist. Everyone including the neighbors who were threatened for filming knew this was a made up story for a cop that got mad and killed girls. It was a family members car. He shot into their open window. He murdered a 16 year old girl and shot another.
THEN the motherf***er dragged their limp and lifeless bodies out of the car, and cuffed and searched them never calling for medical.
You are lying and misleading and just disgusting. You are going to support a coward that murdered a teen girl.
The cop went to the hospital because HE HAD TO to back up his lie. The injury to his leg amounted to nothing. Most likely from jerking the girls out of the car or scrambling. Not from the car which didn't move. He shout them out of FEAR they would hit him. Not because he really did.
EVERYONE KNOWS HIS STORY IS A LIE.
Do a little research instead of listening to just the cops side.
Denver police shot and killed a female suspect after they claimed the car load of teenagers was going to hit officers with the vehicle. One of the girls was shot in the leg. Another, Jessica Hernandez, 16, wasn’t so lucky.