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originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat
If its CGI, someone give that man a job in Hollywood.
Maybe he already has that job.
If it is a man in a suit, that dude has cajones the size and weight of your league standard bowling balls. Wading around on the swamp like that is seriously dangerous not to mention incredibly stupid.
Right, because a canoe is a floating fortress.
Ever been to a Tampa swamp? I have. One of the safest things to be in is a boat, and it also happens to be the only way to get around in them, unless you are an indigenous creature of it that is.....
Matt agrees with us that if it's a person, "they are either a moron or completely insane". "They are walking, swimming and diving in an area where there are hundreds of 12 foot gators and water moccasins everywhere. I was there watching it for a while. Seemed to notice me and walked toward deeper water. It went underwater and vanished. Paddled up there and it was nowhere to be seen."
What protection does a canoe afford against a "12 foot gator"?
originally posted by: TXRabbit
The video was given to the channel "Bigfoot Evidence" by a reader.
Not a hunter per-se (although they could be), but someone who's interest is in Bigfoot sightings.
-20 points?
Does that help or hurt the credibility of this being real or faked?
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat
My point is he's full of #. It's not someone in a suit because they'd have to be crazy, says the guy in the canoe, amongst the 12 foot gators.
That doesn't mean I believe it's someone in a suit.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Vasa Croe
It's not even just about gators, either. All manner of critters live in swamps, many of which you don't want to get bitten by. Most of which can't bite through a canoe or dang near any other type of boat.
Not to mention that for people, walking in a swamp is an exhausting event to begin with.
Ask yourself this...if you were filming something so extraordinary, would you not be shaking like a leaf and zooming like a MF'er on it?
originally posted by: aynock
a reply to: TXRabbit
Ask yourself this...if you were filming something so extraordinary, would you not be shaking like a leaf and zooming like a MF'er on it?
i'm pretty sure the camera is fixed on the kayaker's head - a waterproof gopro type thing - it's shooting whatever the kayaker is looking at
an interesting vid, nothing obviously screaming fake to me - but i can't rule out a guy in a suit
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Then why couldn't someone do 20 seconds up out of their boat?
Also is that not shallow water that canoe is in?
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Then why couldn't someone do 20 seconds up out of their boat?
originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Then why couldn't someone do 20 seconds up out of their boat?
What do you mean? Like, the guy in a suit got out of the canoe, made his way through the snake infested water in a wet and heavy ape costume, played around in the swamp for a time before what... diving under the swamp? Then they cut the video and then this hypothetical ape costumed man, tired and exhausted from wallowing through the swamp in a sodden ape costume, makes his way back to the canoe and in, at least thigh high swamp water, crawls back into the canoe. Is this what you are suggesting? Sounds like a really dangerous ordeal for a short YouTube vid.
A 66-year-old retired electrician named John Rodriguez claims he saw this Bigfoot “bathing” while he was fishing in the Hillsborough River near Tampa, Florida.
Source
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Then why couldn't someone do 20 seconds up out of their boat?
Also is that not shallow water that canoe is in?
Because they are not stupid enough to get out. Swamps can be shallow and deep...typically no more than a few feet deep and I believe this one is average 10ft. The guy is obviously in a shallower section, but deep enough to canoe in.
Shallow water is more dangerous than deep if you get out because you could easily step on something that WILL eat you if you step on it.
Look....I understand you do not understand the in's and out's of being in a swamp and I could sit here and try to explain it to you ALL DAY LONG......but I won't. If you have never had any experience in one then there is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise....it is simply a matter of having the experience....sort of like me trying to explain to someone what fried chicken is when they have never had chicken at all.....just can't explain it in a manner that they will understand.
originally posted by: aynock
a reply to: Vasa Croe
there's a good chance it would have been running for the whole trip, so this would be an edit out of a continuous sequence (it also says at the start of the video that it has been cropped)
the entire footage would be useful - the context would be revealing
if the clip comes from the middle of an extended sequence of someone spending a day paddling round swamps, and backs up he claim that the kayaker went and investigated the area after the sighting that would be good corroboration for me - it's unlikely someone would be hanging around in a monkey suit on the off chance a kayaker comes along filming
if they've just got this short clip, that would be suspicious
What do you mean? Like, the guy in a suit got out of the canoe, made his way through the snake infested water in a wet and heavy ape costume, played around in the swamp for a time before what... diving under the swamp?
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Crazy....I went to the blog that posted this and they have a clip of it narrowed down that shows what appears to either be a long tail or a snake possibly biting the backside as it is walking through the swamp.
Can two fit in a canoe?
At what time in the video does he dive under the swamp? Oh, that's right, didn't record that part. That's kind of strange isn't it?