Panicked super rich buying boltholes with private airstrips to escape if poor rise up

originally posted by: Blaine91555

What's the difference between a rich person having a property somewhere just in case and a survivalist with no money having a bug-out location set up? Only the amenities.

Perhaps because the survivalist only has the one abode as opposed to multiples?
Not that that's any reason for resentment amidst disparity. Humanitarians don't attain wealth through humanitarian actions.
Support the paradigm as long as it suits you.
People will awake, get over it, deal with it, make preparations . Eat the rich. They're tender.

a reply to: boohoo

I am grateful for the opportunity to try. Like businesses, some ideas succeed others fail. Time will tell. In the meantime, I will enjoy being free a large mortgage or expensive rent. On my own land. God, I love to say that.

originally posted by: occuluinunc
Please, spare me all your bravado and whiney claptrap about the rich getting richer and the unfairness of it all. The few have the most wealth because they put in the long hours, worked the hardest, went to school and have taken calculated risks. We’re also smart, aggressive and know that ‘fat, lazy and stupid are no way to go through life.’

Generalize much?

originally posted by: occuluinunc
they also pay for my military and police. And if they aren’t around – my private security will take care of business. Next.

MY military and MY police?

originally posted by: occuluinunc
Oh, and go ahead – rise up . . . see if you can get 10 meters on my ‘bolthole’ before you run away with your tail between your legs. What little taxes I pay not only fund all the social programs you need to survive, but they also pay for my military and police. And if they aren’t around – my private security will take care of business. Next.

Why do you assume that the masses would consider you and your property, personally, the enemy of income equality? I doubt you are even a blip on the radar. In the grand scheme of things, you're in the same boat as people living at the poverty line, meaning you one are economic depression or hyper inflationary period away, from being broke and destitute. Heck a local government could put you out of business and run you into the ground in court fees, if they so wished.

Here's someone who seemed to think he had "enough money" to have "real influence" in his community, but found out otherwise, when a "bigger fish" gobbled him up and spit him out:

Docheffs went to the Granby City Council and sought to re-zone the land surrounding Heemeyer's muffler shop. Heemeyer was involved in the re-zoning process from the outset, attending town meetings to ensure that his interests were protected. Nevertheless, in 2001 the town zoning commission and trustees approved the rezoning request. Adding apparent insult to injury, the plan for the concrete plant cut off the only route to his muffler shop. He even went so far as to buy a bulldozer to build a new road that would allow customer access to his muffler shop, but the city council declined to approve his plan.

www.damninteresting.com...

There are plenty of dead aristocrats that didn't survive the "Peasants Revolt", "Shays' Rebellion", the "German Peasants War" and "The French Revolution". They would certainly disagree with such hubris, in hind sight.

a reply to: occuluinunc

The only thing anyone is asking is a reasonable wage, you pay your #ing taxes, and you actually use your money so that it goes back into the economy rather than hording most of it to yourself. No more rich tax dodging, no more hording wealth, and no more treating people like your personal slave bitches. That's all. I'm certainly not asking for a handout, just to be able to make a living without throwing my entire life away to get it.

originally posted by: occuluinunc
Please, spare me all your bravado and whiney claptrap about the rich getting richer and the unfairness of it all. The few have the most wealth because they put in the long hours, worked the hardest, went to school and have taken calculated risks. We’re also smart, aggressive and know that ‘fat, lazy and stupid are no way to go through life.’

Not only do we re-invest our money to increase or wealth, we also buy land – lots of it . . . more land that you could ever dream of owning. We also give plenty back – to our church, charities, education, health, protecting wildlife & wild lands.

You know what you’d do if we (the super rich) decided to give all the poor and unfortunates $1 million each? You’d blow it. You’d blow it up your nose, on big houses, big cars, expenses trips, gambling, smokes, alcohol and online porn. You wouldn’t use it to better yourself or society. No, your lazy fat arse would waste it all on yourself and in a year (at best), the money would be gone, you’d be in debt and back on welfare again.

Oh, and go ahead – rise up . . . see if you can get 10 meters on my ‘bolthole’ before you run away with your tail between your legs. What little taxes I pay not only fund all the social programs you need to survive, but they also pay for my military and police. And if they aren’t around – my private security will take care of business. Next.

What's to stop those armed guards you keep around you from taking you out?

As far as the rest, you either have a massively inflated sense of self worth or are trolling so I'll just ignore it.

The ghost of Watt Tyler is watching over this thread.

I doubt wherever these goons hide they will not be immune to missile attack - unless they want to live underground.

Were there an uprising and the furious public got their hands on fair power I dare say that every move would be made to catch these financial thieves and exploiters and bring them to justice. You can run but you cannot hide indefinitely and hopefully you will be held accountable.

originally posted by: occuluinunc
Please, spare me all your bravado and whiney claptrap about the rich getting richer and the unfairness of it all. The few have the most wealth because they put in the long hours, worked the hardest, went to school and have taken calculated risks. We’re also smart, aggressive and know that ‘fat, lazy and stupid are no way to go through life.’

Not only do we re-invest our money to increase or wealth, we also buy land – lots of it . . . more land that you could ever dream of owning. We also give plenty back – to our church, charities, education, health, protecting wildlife & wild lands.

You know what you’d do if we (the super rich) decided to give all the poor and unfortunates $1 million each? You’d blow it. You’d blow it up your nose, on big houses, big cars, expenses trips, gambling, smokes, alcohol and online porn. You wouldn’t use it to better yourself or society. No, your lazy fat arse would waste it all on yourself and in a year (at best), the money would be gone, you’d be in debt and back on welfare again.

Because absolutely every poor or non extremely wealthy, down and out unfortunate person-whether newly or not- fits into that?

Oh, and go ahead – rise up . . . see if you can get 10 meters on my ‘bolthole’ before you run away with your tail between your legs. What little taxes I pay not only fund all the social programs you need to survive, but they also pay for my military and police. And if they aren’t around – my private security will take care of business. Next.

Okay Prince

It's so silly when all the rich have to do to stop me from attacking is give me a lot of money.

a reply to: Aazadan

Did you realize that purchasing power for the bottom 90% of Americans has declined over the past 30 years? I

That is because of fiat currency.

There is MORE money in circulation than ever.

The more money the less value it has. Means it takes more to buy things..

That is on government. Not rich folks.

Every single person,poor,middle, rich is at the mercy of government, and it's snip the federal reserve.

That prints money out of thin air.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Aazadan

Did you realize that purchasing power for the bottom 90% of Americans has declined over the past 30 years? I

That is because of fiat currency.

There is MORE money in circulation than ever.

The more money the less value it has. Means it takes more to buy things..

That is on government. Not rich folks.

Every single person,poor,middle, rich is at the mercy of government, and it's snip the federal reserve.

That prints money out of thin air.

Whom do you think the "government" answers to?

The "owners of capital" want more fiat currency in circulation, period, the "government" does only what they tell them to do.


Here is a "small potatoes" example, but the effect is all the same, the "owners of capital" say jump and the "government" says "how high"

Mans House Trashed Mafia Style By Thugs Hired By Mortgage Company (Cop Will Do Nothing)

a reply to: boohoo

Whom do you think the "government" answers to?

Itself.

Money is just another means of identity politics to keep the masses fighting between themselves.

Instead of us fighting those kleptocrat's on capitol shill.

That promises larger,and larger pieces of the pie,and delivers nothing, but empty rhetoric.

Free your mind. Your wallet will follow.

originally posted by: neo96
Money is just another means of identity politics to keep the masses fighting between themselves.

Instead of us fighting those kleptocrat's on capitol shill.

That promises larger,and larger pieces of the pie,and delivers nothing, but empty rhetoric.

Free your mind. Your wallet will follow.

Umm...what are you mumbling about?

List of Goldman Sachs employees in the White House

Hillary Clinton is leaving nothing to chance, and neither is Goldman Sachs. Since her first Senate campaign in 1999, the firm has been bankrolling Clinton to the tune of millions. Individual donors like Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein have been generous, but the firm has sought to purchase influence and good will through more oblique channels: speaking fees as well as contributions to the nonprofit Clinton Foundation. Of course, Goldman is not alone. Citigroup ranks No. 1 in lifetime donations to Clinton; Morgan Stanley is No. 6 and employs Clinton confidant Tom Nides.

www.thenation.com...

a reply to: TrueAmerican

I don't think these guys can figure out where they live or who they are.

originally posted by: Scouse100

It really isn't that black and white though is it? I have my own business but I don't for a second believe that everyone is lucky enough to be born and raised with the capability of doing the same.

Sure I have worked hard but no harder than my mum who worked 2 jobs on minimum wage and struggled to feed us and heat our house. I just got lucky, I am wired up to take risks and was born with the ability to do OK at school.

Quoted for truth.

I had my first job illegally at 14, just to get the experience. Was forced to leave after they figured out I wasn't supplying my ss # for a reason. Started my first corporation at age 17. Heck, I was working summers and school days when suspended for being as I am way before all of that. Not a chance in hell I'd be so ignorant and foolish to think everyone could do what I did, or that I simply put in more efforts than others.

The truth is much, much more complex than some are making it out to be. Jamie does have a point, but it's not the whole truth. It's his or her POV, and it's rather narrow minded, unfortunately. Plenty of people working 2-3 jobs who are incapable of putting in what is needed to get ahead. When I say incapable, I mean it. You can extrapolate as you will. Any situation I mention would be one possibility among MANY.

You and I are wired to take risks, but we know most people aren't like us. Truth is this planet would be too much chaos if everyone were like us. There exists variety, with the majority leaning towards cohesion and normalcy, while extreme variants are sprinkled in every which way on occasion.

Attempting to sum it up as: do more, you lazy bum! is missing so, so much of the picture.

originally posted by: neo96
That is because of fiat currency.

There is MORE money in circulation than ever.

The more money the less value it has. Means it takes more to buy things..

That is on government. Not rich folks.

Every single person,poor,middle, rich is at the mercy of government, and it's snip the federal reserve.

That prints money out of thin air.

The amount of money in the system is irrelevant when you're measuring minutes of work to purchase something. If a loaf of bread costs 1 cent and people make 25 cents/hour it takes 2.4 minutes of work to buy a loaf of bread. If a loaf of bread costs 40 cents and people make 10 dollars/hour it still takes 2.4 minutes of work to buy a loaf of bread. When people are needing to spend 1 dollar to buy that same loaf of bread but are making $10/hour though it now takes them 6 minutes of work to buy that bread. They now have less than half the purchasing power. That is what is happening.

More currency has entered the system which creates a devaluation but wages haven't proportionally increased for everyone. For those in the bottom 90% of income earners they have seen less of an increase than the inflation rate which means they have less purchasing power for equally desirable labor. Those between 90 and 95% have more or less broken even, and only those above 95% have seen things improve.

a reply to: Puppylove

I have nothing to give away, I'm in debt, I live week to week. If I had money to give I would. Right now I drive illegally because I don't have enough to make my car capable of passing my state inspection. I've helped the occasional homeless person, I know it's not much, but I guarantee percentage wise of what I'm worth probably equivalent or more. Big difference is, I give money away I don't eat for a week, he gives that billion to what is likely some corrupt charity to look good he doesn't miss a meal or a fancy new car. He spends that money to buy looking good, but trust me, it doesn't really cost him anything. Most wealth still gets horded or used to amass more wealth for himself. Most money that goes to charities never makes it to the people that need it. Helping the economy will reach more people and do more than these charities will.

You don’t need to justify yourself. You are a good person, plain and simple. But a good person would not call for a blind uprising against any and all rich simply because they have more money. My point is the mob-mentality notion that the rich are evil, that us poor should uprise against them because they have more money, is irrational.

People in this very thread would love to see this happen, that they are foaming at the mouth with bloodlust, and making jokes about it, while at the same time making the rich even more rich by attempting to maintain their lifestyle.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I don't want to see anyone hurt, but the truth is, corporate greed has created this situation. Not everyone rich is the problem, but those who are get away with it without fear of reprisal. The problem is, it's getting to where, people have no choice but to rise up and defend themselves because we honestly have no other means to do so. The government is owned by corporate interests, we're ruled by a puppet government, we have nothing to defend ourselves with legally. The corporations own everything, and if they get their way, they'll own everyone. Honestly, not even sure we could win if we did or do rise up. Is not like the old days where numbers was enough. Tech is the great equalizer and the rich own it all. Numbers mean nothing, to be honest it's pretty scarey.

There's a point where too much is taken and people are expected to live on too little. Is even worse in other countries where the corporations severely misuse people because no laws protect them. I'm not going to pretend I have it bad compared to the other countries literally raped by corporate greed.

a reply to: Aazadan

The amount of money in the system is irrelevant when you're measuring minutes of work to purchase something

No the amount of money in the system is very much relevant. What they call INFLATION.

25 cents an hour eh?

Intentionally discounting compensation of employees get in the form of benefits plus their hourly wages ?

Like SS contributions,medicare contributions,work mans compensation insurance, and unemployment insurance. Then there is holiday pay, an vacation pay.

Sounds like it.

This income inequality bull snip intentionally ignores employee compensation benefits.