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Smoking Bans - Where will it end?

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posted on Feb, 15 2015 @ 11:37 PM
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The insults and off topic nonsense stop now or the thread may be closed and anyone participating may be posting banned!

Stick to the topic and stop sniping at each other. Final warning.

Do not reply to this post.

Blaine91555
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edit on 2/15/2015 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 03:55 AM
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Yep im a smoker and have tried quitting in the past.
We get taxed heavily on cigarrettes and its easy money for them as it is an addictive product.
But having said that does that not show that they are thinking more about the health of the people than lining their pockets?

Just a thought. please dont nuke me.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 06:01 AM
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Just saying, today I went without smoking a cigarette.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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I used to smoke, and I loooooooooved it. If I live to 100, I may start again. Anyone who has quit smoking and pretends that smoking isn't bad for you isn't being honest with themselves or you.

The question posed in the OP: "Smoking Bans, where will it end?" It will end when smoking is completely totally banned from all places. (North America and Europe at least).

Jeff



posted on Mar, 9 2015 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Good for you for recognizing that this goes far far beyond the issue of tobacco.

Everyone acts as though the smoke from tobacco is the CAUSE of disease. This is the impression that public health has put out there and scared everyone to death with. The fact is that, at the very worst, smoke is only correlated with an increased RISK of disease. There is a very very big difference.

Smokers are not MURDERING their children. That is extremism to the point of mental illness

Tired of Control Freaks


Oh, the "common good" is used as an excuse for control far too much! I have seen that in discussing vaccinations as well, with some claiming they would literally shoot anyone that refused to vaccinate, treating them as a threat. Surreal, but true. More than a little disturbing as well! My parent smoked, a lot, and shortened their own lives, and certainly didn't help my overall health, but murder? Not even close! Poor decisions, and we have a right to those! Assuming some governing force can do better is utter foolishness, in any case!

Mental illness and government.....synonyms?



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 07:48 AM
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I'm a non-smoker, but it seems ridiculous to outlaw smoking in bars. Alcohol isn't any healthier, and people go to bars to do things such as smoking and drinking. What next? Smoke-free casinos?



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: GreenElf
If you down a pint it doesn't get the barman drunk. If you smoke in a bar he will inhale the smoke.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: GreenElf
Yes, smoke free casinos here unless they are on reservations. The same reservations where it is illegal to buy their cheap tax free smokes



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
I do enjoy the after hour illegal 'lock-ins' we get more of at a few local pubs now. The roller blinds come down, the ashtrays are put on the table, and that underworl smokey atmosphere of the 90's and early 00's returns again.
Police couldn't give a toss as they're busy enough stopping fights at taxi ranks between blokes who haven't managed to attract a girl for the evening lol.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: grainofsand cant beat a good lock in, but why pollute your taste buds with cigarette smoke. Non smokers taste the beer better.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
Old school addiction I guess, still a massive market for it.
I'll give up one day...I'll give up one day...



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: GreenElf
I'm a non-smoker, but it seems ridiculous to outlaw smoking in bars. Alcohol isn't any healthier, and people go to bars to do things such as smoking and drinking. What next? Smoke-free casinos?


Can..can you not see the difference between smoking and drinking.? Does it really need to be spelled out?



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014

yeah please do spell it out?

You are in a non-smoking bar...ahh smell that clean air (full of fungus and moulds, farts and body odour, particulate and formaldehyde from the carpets and upholstery) but wait - there is another source of air born contaminants (other than bacteria, viruses etc)

Its the grain alchol - it has a very high rate of evaporation and its evaporating .....toxic chemicals and every one is breathing it in. I can't even choose not to drink if I want to???

Maybe we should ban drinking in an enclosed environment?

So yeah - do spell it out.

Tired of Control Freaks



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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The NHS is looking at banning smoking in hospitals in the near future. This might make sense for the standard hospitals with Accident and Emergencies etc, and perhaps for high security hospitals, but I think it creates a more complicated situation for mental health wards. People can be placed on these wards without really knowing why, and sometimes against their will, so to then say they can't have a cigarette during their time on the ward (which for some people can be months) is just going to add to their distress.

There may be ways around it, such as e-cigarettes (although these can create a fire risk when charging), but the current stance of having designated smoking areas and times seems like a good enough system to me.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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That danged sneaky smoke!! I tell ya can find it's way from one house to the next!!!




Temporary injunction bars man from lighting up inside his Washington home after neighbors sue

WASHINGTON – A temporary order by a Superior Court judge is keeping a man from smoking inside his home in the District of Columbia.

WJLA-TV (http://(link tracking not allowed)/1BrlPLl ) reports that Edwin Gray's next door neighbors in northeast Washington have filed a civil suit claiming they're being harmed by smoke that sneaks into their home through a hole in the basement. They are seeking an injunction and $500,000 in damages.

www.foxnews.com...


This isn't a rental unit it's a home he has owned for 50 years!!



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:35 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar


This isn't a rental unit it's a home he has owned for 50 years!!


You didn't include this part of the article:


In court filings and a statement, the neighbors say they tried to work with Johnson and Gray, and filed suit when mediation attempts failed.


Which is no surprise.

It's obviously a row house meaning it's connected to the houses next door. It doesn't matter how long he's owned it, he's responsible for keeping the smoke he's producing from seeping into other people's property.
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: DelMarvel

ya you're right it is a row house
www.wjla.com...



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

you kind of have to wonder about the legality of a court order preventing you from undertaking a perfectly legal activity within your own privately owned home?????

Now this really sets a precedent, doesn't it?

Tired of Control Freaks



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

okay - so now I am really wondering

The neighbours moved in and they claim that the smoke is entering their home though a hole in the basement.

So why didn't they just fix the hole?

This stinks of anti-smoking lobby group backing this family

Tired of Control Freaks



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

ya I know I could possibly see it if maybe someone was actually having a bad reaction but that doesn't seem to be a case it's just a fear that it might be harmful and like you said why not just fix the hole and well it's kind of hard for me to believe that the smoke would be finding it to that hole in the basement unless they are smoking in the basement since the smoke seems to go up not down

gee I have a fear that the bleach that you are using in your wash is going to adversely affect me so I should go to a court and have them order you to stop using bleach???



edit on 10-3-2015 by dawnstar because: (no reason given)




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