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Smoking Bans - Where will it end?

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posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

I think I have a scenario we can both agree on possibly. If I was to burn popcorn in my apartment/condo 24 hours a day and it started getting into the air ducts and making your apartment/condo smell like burnt popcorn 24 hours a day would you complain about it or just say "oh well, he has a right to burn popcorn and make me smell it"? What about if you or your family had asthma and the popcorn smell aggrivated it and made it extremely hard to breath? Would you just deal with it, or would you ask me to please cook my popcorn outside so that you didn't have to face the repurcussions of my actions?




posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

I seriously don't understand how asking you to not making my apartment/condo smell like smoke makes me a tyrant? I have asked you multiple times to not make any assumptions about anything I believe or ask for outside of that. I don't need them to ban cigs, I don't need them to make it illegal to smoke outside or in your car or your own house. I simply ask that you not smoke in an apartment/condo. That's all dude. For that matter I don't even mind smoking in casinos and bars and restaraunts. I have a choice whether to be a patron in those facilities or not.

I think you forcing my apartment/condo to smell like smoke makes you more of a Tyrant then me asking you not to. It's as simple as that. I am asking, you are not giving any choice, and forcing it on me. (Not you obviously, just used for sake of argument).
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posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: sputniksteve

SS,

Look at the big picture,

you have opened a door and now lots of things that you never thought of are going to waltz right in to your apartment or condo or home and there will be nothing you can do to stop it. Imho, the next target will be obesity as it costs a lot to deal with all the illnesses associated with it. The enforcement will probably take many forms. . .

STM


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posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

What are you talking about? That door was opened LONG before cigarettes were involved in the equation. At least YOUR vice is still legal and you aren't thrown in jail for it, unlike say people who like prostitutes or drugs. The war on drugs has gone on for some 100 years now. So don't talk about doors being opened, just be thankful that you are still allowed to smoke at all. Your situation could be MUCH worse.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

I am sorry but that is not a valid argument for not addressing this issue, period. Do you care to comment on my 2 posts above you?

They have banned drugs for everyone and alcohol for people under 21, has that opened the flood gates like you a proposing taking action on smoking in apartments/condos will?



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: sputniksteve

SS,

Here's a situation to consider:

You live in Colorado in an apartment. Your neighbor is smoking c annabis to help their condition. What do you think about skunk smell all the time? How would you handle that?

ETA: And in this scenario you have young children and a baby.

STM

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posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

You should probably smoke that outdoors as well.

ETA: You could also try vaping it, vaping oil, or even eating edibles. None of those produce burnt smoke and would all be healthier in the air.
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posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

Same way I would handle smoking. I would ask them to please smoke outside.

(Actually I love the smell of dank buds, so this one isn't an issue for me personally)

Care to address the 2 posts at the top of this page, or the one above your last post?



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: TDawgRex
Not at all.

No idea where you got that from. Please tell me which of my habits you pay for?



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: nightbringr

If you smoke, the rest of society pays for it in increased health care premiums and costs. That isn't to say we buy you packs of cigarettes, but imagine other things being subsidized by your fellow members of society.
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posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: sputniksteve
Yes, that was the point I was making. Read my first post please.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ArMaP

They used to have peanut coated doughnuts in the bakeries. man I loved those things!! I have not seen on in a long time! They don't seem to make them anymore since so many became allergic to the peanuts.

I have to wonder...
Just what was it that suddenly made so many people allergic to peanuts that companies had to stop using them to make things like peanut doughnuts and schools to ban them???




The population increase, imo.
The more people there are, the more that are allergic to things, the more that smoke, and the more that hate it.
Peanuts and smoking aren't new by any means, it's 2015.
People are.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch
Your rights end when they infringe upon others.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: sputniksteve

I guess we'll just have to agree to dis agree. You have your opinion and I don't care what it is.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: sputniksteve

Little late for that, huh? Every American is paying for every one's healthcare, so why pick on the smokers? Go slap that cheese burger out of that over weight person's hand and bitch at them about costs. Inspect shopping carts and confiscate all the red meat. Take fatty snacks off the shelf. No? Why? If health care costs are the worry, then go for the major killers.

www.medicalnewstoday.com...

Heart disease is the leading cause of death for both men and women in the US and also the leading cause of death worldwide. More than half of the deaths that occur as a result of heart disease are in men.

red heart with stethoscope
Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the US with around 596,577 deaths each year.
Coronary heart disease costs the US $108.9 billion each year and is the most common type of heart disease.3

Heart disease is a term used to describe several problems related to plaque buildup in the walls of the arteries.

As the plaque builds up, the arteries narrow, making it more difficult for blood to flow and creating a risk for heart attack or stroke.4



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64

I agree with you. I wasn't picking on smokers in particular, the comment was to the wrong person about a subject i wasn't conversing about and shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Smokers aren't the only reason we pay increased healthcare premiums and cost, you are right we all are. Even if there wasn't a reason to increase the insurance and healthcare field would raise them anyway ;0



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: nightbringr
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
In Canada, we pay for our health care through taxes. Therefore, when someone gets sick from smoking, we ALL pay.

A man hooked up to a respirator because he has emphazima as a direct result of smoking costs tax payers a fortune. So does cancer treatments, etc.

And no, the tax revenue from cigarette sales comes no where near covering your bad habits strain on our health care system.

I don't make you pay for my habits, don't make me pay for yours.


But the point is that its not the smoking that is killing anyone , this is just spin to take the heat off the real culprit. It will always be the easy scapegoat because you either like smoking or you don't.

When the burden on that poor old taxpayer gets to the point of no return. Suddenly the epiphany penny will drop. Smoking is significantly down on what it was a few years back .So I ask you all ,has the general health of the population improved??? Has it F%^$#.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

People who don't smoke don't want your smoke in their lungs. Just like people who don't huff paint, don't want huffers' paint fumes in their lungs. Same thing



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: anonentity
Are you seriously implying that smoking isn't bad for you and doesn't cause health problems?



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: TownCryer

Yep, well I don't want people's car exhaust in MY lungs - is there anything I can do about it? No. And for you, you don't HAVE to have people's smoke in your lungs because there's a law for every single possible smoking situation involving smoking. There's none for car exhaust - fair? No.



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