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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
Is it time for non-smokers to stand up and help defend the rights of a hated minority? Or will you all fall under the hammer with us?
Oh their too busy trying to legalize that other plant that cause's smoke, and criminalize tobacco here.
Oh they will be under the hammer because those same laws effect that 'medicinal' herb.
originally posted by: KAOStheory
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
And, as we speak, here's the $18 million dollar class-action suit commercial - about asbestos.
I wonder how many people got lung cancer from asbestos, but blamed it on 2nd hand smoke because of their job, a neighbor...lol oops.
No $18 million class-action suit for you, you already decided that "probably" you got from the doc was the gospel truth.
originally posted by: Poppcocked
Any parent that smokes around their child should be beaten and shot in the face.
The taxes on cigs is around 300% in the U.S. I personally quit smoking myself 2 years ago to avoid paying the taxes but only because the bulk of the taxes are going to support a new stadium for our local professional football team. In a non-smoking stadium!!! If you want to leave to smoke you are not permitted back in. Meanwhile all the happy go lucky non-smokers are getting drunk and spilling beer on themselves and anyone nearby. Happened to me both times my wife made me attend a game with her. Plus I HATE football. I am supposed to give up my enjoyment for others and pay for it too. Unreal!!
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Tangerine
So why can't a vaper go out and vape? Again, there is nothing toxic about what they breathe out.
I say this as someone who doesn't and never will smoke. I just think this ridiculous.
What I think is even more ridiculous is that they will never, ever just make tobacco illegal. They can't. It makes them too much money off of taxes. So instead they just make it illegal for you to use it anywhere.
Let's not forget that it was anti-tobacco legislation that indirectly led to Michael Garner's death.
If you list the apt. as a smoking apt. you will rent it easily. Just sayin.
originally posted by: DelMarvel
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
originally posted by: Tangerine
If you can figure out a way to smoke in public and not exhale while no smoke escapes from your cigarette, go for it.
And if you can site something that proves exhaling smoke is a detriment to those around them. . . Maybe we will listen
If you're talking about detriments to health, for the sake of argument let's say you're right. It doesn't make any difference.
Tobacco smoke also creates a significant effect on the personal environment of those around it which is extremely unpleasant to many people. Those who smoke have no recognition of this because they are desensitized by their habit and they would never put up with a similar intrusion on their space. Why do you think the majority of landlords do not allow smoking? It's because it's close to impossible to rent to non-smokers afterward because of the stench. And that persists long after the smokers are gone. In public it's no different in principle than someone shouting in your ear. Below a certain decibel level you couldn't cite anything to prove that is "a detriment" to anyone, either.
originally posted by: EternalSolace
If you own your home, then no one should be able to dictate what you can or cannot do.
However, living in an apartment building, or being in a restaurant, or in a mall, I don't want to breath that stuff in. I don't want to smell it. I don't want any part of it. What you do to yourself, is your own business. But when what you do effects me and my health, then there's a problem.
originally posted by: beezzer
I'll quit smoking when they ban pets (the dander offends my sinuses)
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Poppcocked
How about parents who allow thier children to get fat? Or not get enough exercise? Or those who fail to get them vacinnated? Or refuse to put them on medication for hyperactivity because the teacher asked them ?
Should they also be shot in the face and beaten?
Or is this particular punishment reserved only for smokers?
Does this treatment apply to all parents who refuse to follow public health "advice"
Tired of Control Freaks
originally posted by: LOSTinAMERICA
1 in 5 people smoke. They make tax money on it and can now fine them again for smoking in public. They really don't care about your right to have a smoke free environment. It's all about the duckies. I'm glad I quit.
I think people who eat garlic are offensive. No more garlic.
originally posted by: thebtheb
So...something that kills you in a few minutes in a garage is allowed to drive all over every city in the world, completely unchecked, yet now they're talking about not even smoking on your own balcony because it could 'potentially drift up to another apartment's window.'