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UFOs & the Cold War: Project Palladium

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posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

Hey Bedlam Bro,

I myself sucked up ionizing and particulate
radiation, while being roasted at 110 degrees
and deafened with 90 decibels at all times...
I never got to blow anything up...

I noticed that if I answer someones question
(from my POV) then you often don't answer.

Please always answer!

Or maybe I will just stop participating in
these threads for a while and let you
expose your behind as a target for
a while!

Kev




posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Hello My Friend,



I will have to include a chapter on schizoaffective disorders as well, not just high functioning autism.


Um, Hmmm. KPB, I think what people really need if we are going to be able to discuss this brain and "hallucinations" (strong quotey-fingers on that one) stuff with the general public is first introiduce them to the fact that all this brain stuff, temporal-lobe lability or what-have-you, occurrs on a spectrum. There's all sorts and types: it's not "you're either 'mentally ill', or you're not", especially with TLE and its related sequelae.



Of course you know what they say about paranoia; "just because you are paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you"


That's true, but the one that I grew up with was "The paranoid live longer", didn't you ever play Killer?




posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

You got a star for a charming response!
Nope never played killer.

Yes I wholeheartedly agree.

This is one of my hot button topics.

There is talk about bioengineering autistic
spectrum and other syndromes/conditions
out of the human genome.

Well that would engineer genius and
creativity and joy out of the human
animal 😢.

The line between genius and madnes
is nearly nonexistent.

Kev



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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It did, once. Solved a budding problem for several years. Didn't go far enough or went too far, depending on who you talk to.


Road/rail mobile ICBM's by any chance? Something like the old RS-71 post-strike 'clean up' proposal?



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: 1ofthe9

Road/rail mobile ICBM's by any chance? Something like the old RS-71 post-strike 'clean up' proposal?


More like "Pew pew pew" followed by "BOOM" followed by a setback in someone's nuclear development plans.



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

USB drives don't go "pew pew pew".





Okay, okay, on topic: so...we know that they had this radar-spoofing "equipment". We have plenty of instances from the OP of the non-visible sort of radar-spoofing, only visible as radar 'blips', used for espionage and even pilot-training, and we have this quote from Leon Davidson, "“ECM + CIA = UFO"

On top of that we have the anecdotal stories of pilots flying along with this radar-spoofing "equipment" of "Foo Fighters", visible balls of light that they could see.

I'm not understanding how it is far-fetched at all to entertain the notion that maybe "they" got real good at creating the visible sort, the kind that can be seen by people. Folks have been willing to believe all sorts of stuff about "Foo Fighters", but not that they are possibly an unexpected artifact of radar spoofing that was accidentally discovered and put to "use"?


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posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

"Ohhh Dammit! Why our missiles never work and crash in ocean! Why reactor no make uranium and please benevolent dictator? I must execute general Yu Stin Ki Pu for failure!"



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: Bedlam

USB drives don't go "pew pew pew".


This was in 2004. Along with a lot of other stuff



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Bedlam

"Ohhh Dammit!



In this case, the "OH Dammit!" was more from putting all someone's eggs in one supposedly unreachable impenetrable basket and talking major smack.



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

My theory is that sometimes the plasmas
generated by our tech gets 'possessed' by
things that go bump in the night (or just
innocent intelligent plasmas or dark
plasmas that live in humans) and the
offending 'plasma' takes Ferris Buellers
friends car for a joy ride and creates
all kinds of major havoc.

Me I want to see the Stay Puft Marshmallow
man stomping down the street....that will
be the ultimate proof!

Not entirely kidding..



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

would be cool if there was some particle weapon that can focus it's effects to only MANIFEST at a certain distance from the source. Like say only at 500 feet underground (or whatever length you tune it to do what it does ). But no ill effects minus a ton of gamma radiation on the surface or anywhere else. A fry em in their evil underground lair beam.



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: Bedlam

USB drives don't go "pew pew pew".


This was in 2004. Along with a lot of other stuff


Ryanggang? Was it kinetic or a nuclear bunker buster?

I'm gonna need some more hints on the propulsion aspect of these things.


Also regarding the foo-fighters, I just picked up www.amazon.ca... and its pretty interesting. A couple Coyne-esqe encounters can be found out there apparently.



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

Ryan and co sure do like talking smack. Wonder if they even told his scion... That's assuming they figured it out. And that something happened in the first place /whistles

a reply to: 1ofthe9

Sure, I spend all that time formatting an obfuscatory response lol.
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posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: 1ofthe9
Ryanggang?


Gezundheit!



posted on Jan, 28 2015 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: framedragged
a reply to: Bedlam

Ryan and co sure do like talking smack. Wonder if they even told his scion... That's assuming they figured it out. And that something happened in the first place /whistles

a reply to: 1ofthe9

Sure, I spend all that time formatting an obfuscatory response lol.


Is Ryan behind the dig in Burma?

I can play this game too. :p

edit: lemme guess; Zippe-types?
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posted on Jan, 29 2015 @ 04:12 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman
and perhaps pay attention what Kelly.., Bass.. and Bedlam are talking about)

Thanks for that suggestion! In the case of Kelly especially, I had no idea what he was talking about until I re-read his posts one after the other, now I do. The Sky People book sounds interesting.

Thanks for the thread: the radar spoofing is indeed a very nice candidate to decently explain some of the ufo/uap cases.
And the fact that combinations and interactions of electromagnetic waves, atmosferical conditions and matter can produce plasmas (both intentionally created as naturally ocurring) could explain a few observations more (swamplights
, some orbs, ...)

If only we could get the government to confirm their involvement on a case-by-case basis... Wishful thinking perhaps.

But other observations still keep standing. There are a lot of interesting hypothesis around, evidence mainly in the form of eyewitness reports, but so little proof. On both sides, by the way: it goes for both man-made triangular-ish craft performing seemingly physiscs-defying feats, as for plasma-pixies. (note for clarification: I am not saying that people do not experience this)

Experimentation may be the way to go: I am eager to learn what happens when Kelly tries to repeat his experience, accompanied by other witnesses and recording equipment. Or when Robbie Williams repeats his ufo-song experience under controlled conditions, for that matter.

On the other side, past experimentation has not always yielded results, I think. Or it would have been plastered all over the internet, no? I am thinking of Greer's 'fast response team', but also of Vallée's 'control system'.

Maybe ATS could be a vehicle to organize an experimental based approach. Lot's of hypothesis around already. Thanks to Isaac Koi's (and other's) efforts there is a huge database to perform desktop studies around the hypothesis to determine experimental set-up, response variables and how to measure them. Just a thought.

Regards!



posted on Jan, 29 2015 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: Agnost

At the root of the phenomenon in question is a 'life form' which barely
cares that humans exist at all, yet is intricately embedded into every
humans's nervous system. This life form uses every human as a breeding
chamber and again, hardly anyone ever realizes it.

So called 'psychics' try to manipulate these lifeforms for power; but
the life form in question has no interest in being manipulated; it is
of a different order of life than anything else; in a manner of speaking
it lives 'in black holes' yet in human bodies at the same time.

Everything spooky thing in this world is a result of this life form using humans
for it's purpose. It's not good. It's not evil. Our thoughts pretty much
bore it, except those of a very specific type which connect it to
the other 'gender' of it's species and let's it reproduce so to speak.

I know this sounds very spooky.

I keep telling people they don't actually want to know the ultimate
nature of things. But it's not actually 'bad'. It just is, what it is.
And I'd like to think humans could get off of the crazy train to
destruction and partner with the source of their very lives
in a way that is not religious or spiritual or insane, but neither
would it be overly poking and prodding our mostly silent
passengers.

I am of course saying way too much. But it's good practice for me,
as I plan on giving all the details in a book. Of course I can't
afford to do this wrong - bad things happen sometimes to
people who not only liff the veil, but expose what's behind
to strangers.

It's like trying to force your wife to give a brain sample;
it's like trying to train your wife like a dog, to come running
when you give 3 hoot owl whistles. It doesn't fly.

Something more fundamentally real than 'we' are (our normal
walking around consciousness) doesn't do dumb pet tricks.

Yet it would behoove us to respectfully learn more.

It's quite a pickle.

Kev



posted on Jan, 29 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: mirageman



Interesting stuff. I have glanced over Condign but it's not the easiest of reads and is a long document.


Sure, I understand mirageman, but I wouldn't let that stop you from trying.

Have a good one.


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posted on Jan, 29 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: 1ofthe9

Maybe a forest fire caused the explosion that was condoleezza rice offered as a reason.



posted on Jan, 29 2015 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

I hate not knowing whether this
thing has ANY nuts and bolts
to it, or whether its made of
pseudo matter like MIB and
other things are.

I may have to repeat the
experiment that seemingly
led me to seeing the one
that I did.

Kev

Don't know if it would be possible, but I had an intriguing idea for a different 'take', if you decide to "repeat the experiment":

Instead of 'calling' for a ufo (that's shorthand for my 'understanding' of your initial experiment) to come to 'you'...

....see if you can get one to visit someone else.
I bet there are plenty of ATS'ers who would volunteer to be 'visited'...

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