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Is anybody ever going to be an adult and say, "STOP! Grow the F up. Get over it. So you were walked out of the store in handcuffs. Big deal. Smile. Laugh. Who cares?"
The complaint alleges that an argument between Graham Gentles and a coworker at a bar outside of work hours may have prompted the incident. The suit says it's believed that allegations made by the coworker led to store management calling for Gentles' arrest and "walk of shame."
According to the complaint, the so-called "walk of shame" has happened on numerous occasions to employees who were suspected of stealing.
"One of the primary purposes of this lawsuit is that Target stops the policy immediately [and] recognizes the harm that it could do," said McNicholas.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
I am curious about the specific details on what he was accused of and if anyone actually observed it.
I dunno... something is just not sounding right.
originally posted by: lordcomac
Oddly enough, most girls I've met would rather shop at Target than WalMart- the aisles are wider, the lighting comes off as brighter (lower ceilings) and I guess the color red is more attractive to them.
My first job was at Target- working warehouse. Minimum wage, they had me working two jobs with different names so I could get more than 40 hours in. Mandatory bonus hours during holidays, no time and a half. I went by 'Archie' for my bonus hours- The best part was Archie had a real imprinted name tag, where mine was a sticker.
I probably worked at a half dozen other retail based jobs between there and starting an actual career- As far as I can tell, not a single one of those retail shops is run by a local manager with any sense of morality.
Not sure if it's fair to blame the corporation- they encourage results, and the kinds of degenerate assholes that simply don't care about what's nice tend to float to the top of the retail crowd.
But again, we're only hearing one side of the story. Everybody rushing to judgement that Target is automatically guilty on all claims is just as wrong as the "meh, grow up" crowd.
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
originally posted by: olaru12
I guess I might as well cross Target off my list of places to shop; along with Walmart and Sams. Pay their employees poorly and treat em like s***! When the corporate model only cares about profit; somethings seriously wrong.
It's going viral on social media. The blow back on Target will cost them millions. Ironic
Even though this incident of suicide probably has nothing to do with this... Target is presently being, "Walked out of Canada" for their stupidity and bad business practices. What is interesting however is even though Target failed miserably and is closing 100 plus stores and letting 17,000 plus employees go, the executives are sharing mega-bonuses. Go figure eh?
Cheers - Dave
...it sounds more like a d-bag manager than anything Target did.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
It's funny - how one bad decision made by one bad manger has the potential to change a policy that might be used by hundreds of stores - maybe thousands if it affects companies besides Target...
I gotta admit - this is what really interests me
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
This is how a fully functioning society works Jamie1 - not by bullying, not by allowing those in charge to do whatever they please however they want whenever they choose. They are a business and only a business and not above the law
She has a right to take this to court and see if this practice can be changed. Maybe, after she's had her day in court - it will be determined that they did something wrong. Maybe not
What are you afraid of?
It's destructive and disempowering to perpetuate the victim/villain myth when it comes to "having your feelings hurt."
The more likely cause of this guy offing himself was a lifetime of being raised by a mother who reinforced "victim" behavior and blame.
It's almost evil to tell somebody they must feel bad because of what people say or do that's out of their control. Why would you want to perpetuate such a horrible way to live?
The damage is done.
Companies spend a huge amount on portraying their business in the best possible light; however This shows the power of social media in the corporate sphere....perhaps they should take note.
I feel horrible for him, and his family.
However, not a single one of us are victims. We all have, and make, choices.
What I always wonder about when I hear somebody say something like this is - do you believe that if nobody is ever a victim, that that means no person can ever do something wrong to another person?
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Spiramirabilis
I've never once seen any store's loss prevention parade somebody around the store. Every store I've worked with takes the most direct route possible from the door to the office. Her assertion that this "walk of shame" is policy is fishy to me.
If her claims are true, I think the more likely scenario is somebody with an ax to grind paraded him around. But again, we're only hearing one side of the story. Everybody rushing to judgement that Target is automatically guilty on all claims is just as wrong as the "meh, grow up" crowd.