What TSA Agents Say They Found in Luggage Last Year. I Call BS.

a reply to: jude11

I have to disagree with you OP.

I worked for TSA a few years ago and I have found 7 bullets, 18 pellet rounds, 3 batons, 1 brass knuckle, weed, 3 different kitchen knives with 7 inch blades, 2 fake* grenades, 5 tazers, and I have personally caught a gun, while witnessing the arrest of another person in the next lane for a smith and wesson. If you think the terrorists are bad, imagine what tourists could # up because they are not air marshals with proper training.

If everyone only has their fists to fight with it makes it that much easier to take everyone else out.

a reply to: jude11

I cropped out some of the photos from that collage and did a google image search on them. Every one of the 6 that I searched came up as confiscated by the TSA. Some in different countries, but all were bound for or were leaving the USA.

It's really not that hard to imagine someone forgetting something like a gun or weapon or otherwise in a carry on bag..

My career requires that I use a punchdown tool with multiple sharp blades on it.
A few years ago i was at the end of a long 2 week install some place, mentally and physically drained.
I forgot about the two bladed tools in my carry on bag which caused a lot of fun when I tried to go through security.
2 hours later, lots of explaining , paperwork filled out I was able to get through security.

Humans aren't machines and things can and will be easily overlooked by the most competent down to a young kid.

For the latest complete year I could find that would be 0.000003% with a gun in their carry-on. Hardly difficult to believe.

originally posted by: opethPA

Humans aren't machines and things can and will be easily overlooked by the most competent down to a young kid.

Long ago I was in the line with my carry-on, which was my mask, gauges and regs, my passport and a few odds and ends. It dawned on me that I had my dive knife stuck in the gauge holster where it normally resides. I don't think of it as a knife, so it didn't trigger me to pull it and do something else with it.

Luckily, the guys were very nice about it and told me they'd put it in my checked luggage rather than me bail out of line to do it. This was pre 9/11 though.

originally posted by: jude11

originally posted by: Shamrock6
The stats (most recent I could find) say that in 2010 631,939,829 people flew, domestic only. That's over 1.7 million per day. You really think there aren't an average of 6 incredibly stupid people flying every day?

When you look at the numbers of actual passengers flying on a daily basis (and again, those are numbers from 2010 and are domestic only) it doesn't seem so incredible to me.

What you are stating tho is that all 6 get caught.

Just for fun let's say that they never catch all the guns at the airports because of course they would never catch them all. Let's say 1 out of 100 just for numbers sake. That's 600 guns going thru check in baggage every DAY.

Numbers are just for fun but if they say they catch 6 how many are they NOT catching?

I still say this is just propaganda. Like the FBI setting up bombers then "catching them."
Peace

I have to agree with you. There is a reason the information is being peddled. I'm not suggesting that they don't catch people, or that people bring guns (purposely or accidentally) to the airport.

Anything that is peddled in the news lately has a purpose.

For me, this can be swallowed, a little. Seeing small guns being found in carry on bags, that makes sense.

On the west coast, there is a member of law enforcement who claims during any "buy back" program that a "rocket launcher" has been taken off the streets. From LA to Seattle, it is the same used M72 tube with "Trainer" written on it in black Sharpie. Always makes a news splash, and the photo op is humorous for me, since it is the same tube every time.

Need to get my PVC and steel pipe rigged to look "right" for the next "buy-back".

It's funny, looking through the photos they have, one is a photo of an AR15 which is conveniently cropped to remove everything past the lower and make it look pistol sized while with barrel and buffer tube is in reality nearly 2 feet long. Another photo is a Kel-Tec Sub 2000, which when folded is still over a foot long.

Other objects in their little slideshow show things that are absolutely not firearms or blades. One item is a wooden mallet. Another appears to be a toy grenade. Still another appears to be martial arts weapons, 2 sai (basically steel rods, non sharp) and 2 climbing spikes (tiny spikes, maybe an inch long).

Personally, I avoid flying because of the nonsense. I refuse to be groped, I refuse to watch my wife or son being groped, I refuse to lose any more property to TSA snoops (mostly tools, a few DVDs).

a reply to: opethPA
Yup. I had to surrender my Leatherman on my way to Paris last year.
Was running late, just threw stuff into my carryon and forgot to put it in a checked bag.

a reply to: WCmutant

I have to agree with you. There is a reason the information is being peddled. I'm not suggesting that they don't catch people, or that people bring guns (purposely or accidentally) to the airport.

Not just guns.

An unloaded cannon barrel was discovered with a passenger’s checked items at the Kahului Airport (OGG).

Many other odd items were discovered last year. Here are a few of the standouts: octagonal sais, a batarang, another batarang, three spear guns, a bang stick, a whip, a fly grenade, a burning book, a mallet, shukos, giant scissors, bear mace, a grenade-shaped vaping device, a gun knife, a novelty bomb, an inert firework display and a knuckle stunner.

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Worked for airline long time ago, even then I saw the most stupid things confiscated and that was Pre 911 security. Not surprised.

a reply to: Phage

We had a guy try to check in an outboard engine, without purging the gas tank. I think that was the weirdest.

a reply to: Zaphod58
I was told that if the tank had ever held fuel I couldn't put it on a plane.
I wish my brother still had his Travelaire, dammit.

a reply to: Phage

At one point you could as long as there were no fumes detectable. Then the airlines decided to ban them if used at all.

I kind of miss that job just for the weirdness.

a reply to: Zaphod58
I think, all things considered, my job as lead agent in air cargo was my best ever. Wasn't making a lot of money but it was a great job, especially when I finagled my way onto the swing shift. Only two flights to deal with.

83 percent loaded? So 83 percent of the people who had put guns in their luggage loaded them before putting them in there? If true, and that seems very odd, maybe they were trying to hide the bullets by putting them into the guns. I can't imagine any other reason why anyone, let alone 83 percent of anyones, would be so stupid.

If admitting they actually found 2000+ guns on carry-on luggage, are they claiming that the metal detectors that 100% of all those bags pass through are defective? They didn't mention that, and they didn't plead for an increase in manpower to combat the defective and practically non functioning metal scanners, hence the need for more physical searches. But they aren't claiming this either.

They just say the most unbelievable BS that anyone can imagine. This is an agency that from the very beginning made all kinds of ridiculous claims to justify their existence, and even the former director Chertoff was the person who made a great big and fat example of conflict of interest by benefiting from promoting Rapiscan machines which was the product that one of his big clients of his company was selling. More blatant even than Al Gore's cries for trillions to stop carbon for everyone except himself.

Right after Obama got elected was when Chertoff and many other people in government formed security companies, as if they knew it was going to be lucrative to do so, and also knew Obama would help. And boy did he help them with the TSA. Push fear and cash in on it was their slogan, and still is.

This is all relevant since it is the same FEAR pushing and cashing in on the exploitation of FEAR, showing a pattern of FEAR presentation to the American people. Going as far as to unwittingly admit or attempt to say that there are NO FUNCTIONING METAL DETECTORS AT AIRPORTS NOW! Because 2000 plus firearms have been found in carry on luggage.

Now, I have traveled extensively throughout the continental USA, and Canada, and Asia, and Mexico, and they ALWAYS run carry on bags through the belt machine with the Xray scanner BEFORE any TSA person searches those bags or you in any secondary manner.

This shows overwhelmingly that the OP is 100% true and that this story by the TSA is only a feeble attempt to prop up the continuation of this behemoth of unconstitutionality and money making operation by Obama friends and cronies.

FOLLOW THE MONEY.... They have left a paper trail that anyone could follow with a blindfold on. Whether the TSA has helped or not isn't the issue as much has how much money officials have squeezed from the use of it upon the American people by lying, embellishing, and fabricating their successes like catching 2000 plus firearms that they forgot about those metal detectors they have would have caught them before anyone was ever physically searched.

They need some better press editors and writers.

Again, I refuse to believe anything the Government and main street media says. I, like George Carlin, know when each of them is lying. Their mouth is moving. They, will use a ratio of truth and lyes to mold public opinion. If most people studied the art of deception and knew how successful our Govt., and it's agencies, are in such practices would also know the American public is the number one targeted for mass indoctrination. If you really want to see the art of deception at it's best, refer to the 1-25-2015 airing of "60 Minutes" where the Republican leadership Boehner and McConnell are insisting their antics of obstruction is what makes this country great! Those fools, like the rest in Washington, knows what the public wants and needs yet they refuse to answer to the public because they don't work for public, they work for others who really runs this great ship lolypop.

originally posted by: swanne

originally posted by: jude11

If they said that they were found in checked luggage or even on their body...ok, maybe. But carry on? C'mon, you can't really believe this. Right when you go through, take off your shoes, get raped and have your bags scanned?

Not all americans are smart, you know.

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