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originally posted by: deadeyedick
lgbt marriage has never been a right
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: olaru12
Great another banker turned politician wants to legislate morality by pulling some sneaky backhanded crap. He was the only choice on the ballot where he was elected he ran unopposed since 2010.
Under his plan, a religious official would be required to sign a couple’s marriage certificate so separation of church and state how does that work again?
If that does go through we are going to need some more churches of the flying spaghetti monster in Oklahoma to perform marriages.
originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
Because marriage is a religious institution ordained by God for man. Government should stay out of religion, and religion should stay out of government --- isn't that what you progressives have been calling for?
You can't have your cake and your ice cream too.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: deadeyedick
lgbt marriage has never been a right
It's not LGBT marriage. It's MARRIAGE EQUALITY.
ALL couples have the same equal right of LEGAL MARRIAGE. A government contract which applies equally to ALL citizens.
It is you who is creating division by referring to it as LGBT marriage.
Because marriage is a religious institution ordained by God for man.
Government should stay out of religion, and religion should stay out of government --- isn't that what you progressives have been calling for?
You can't have your cake and your ice cream too.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: deadeyedick
lgbt marriage has never been a right
It's not LGBT marriage. It's MARRIAGE EQUALITY.
ALL couples have the same equal right of LEGAL MARRIAGE. A government contract which applies equally to ALL citizens.
It is you who is creating division by referring to it as LGBT marriage.
Where did they all get that right?
It is federally not recognized for any but same sex
We think we have human rights but we only really have gov givin rights
originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
Because marriage is a religious institution ordained by God for man. Government should stay out of religion, and religion should stay out of government --- isn't that what you progressives have been calling for?
originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
Because marriage is a religious institution ordained by God for man. Government should stay out of religion, and religion should stay out of government --- isn't that what you progressives have been calling for?
So why is it that when religion puts its nose in government, you are in an uproar about it, but you are not in an uproar when government sticks its nose in religion?
You can't have your cake and your ice cream too.
Because marriage is a religious institution ordained by God for man.
If a man and a woman over the age of consent, not already married to someone else, and no more closely related than first cousins, lived together in the same house, they were considered to be married, without the need for any legal registration.
www.womenintheancientworld.com...
Priests did not direct weddings in ancient Greece. Instead, a set of rituals was followed, after which the couple would live together. The rituals started with baths. The groom then would go to the bride’s house in a chariot or a cart. A feast may be held at the bride’s father’s house, after which the groom would take his bride back to his parents’ house. They were greeted at the door by the groom’s parents and led to the hearth. There they were showered with nuts and fruit. The couple then retired to their bedroom. For the wife to be fully accepted into the groom’s family, a child had to be conceived from their union.
historylink101.com...
It is odd that despite your claims that religion was not in the marriage decision yet they still deemed it between a man and a woman.
marriage
[mar-ij]
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noun
1.
(broadly) any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities and including, for example, opposite-sex marriage, same-sex marriage, plural marriage, and arranged marriage:
Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every known human society since ancient times.
See Word Story at the current entry.
2.
Also called opposite-sex marriage. the form of this institution under which a man and a woman have established their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
See also traditional marriage (def 2).
this institution expanded to include two partners of the same gender, as in same-sex marriage; gay marriage.
3.
the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock:
They have a happy marriage.
Synonyms: matrimony.
Antonyms: single life, bachelorhood, spinsterhood, singleness.
4.
the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities:
to officiate at a marriage.
Synonyms: nuptials, marriage ceremony, wedding.
Antonyms: divorce, annulment.
5.
a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction:
trial marriage.
6.
any close or intimate association or union:
the marriage of words and music in a hit song.
Synonyms: blend, merger, unity, oneness; alliance, confederation.
Antonyms: separation, division, disunion, schism.
7.
a formal agreement between two companies or enterprises to combine operations, resources, etc., for mutual benefit; merger.
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Now that Massachusetts has legalized same-sex “marriage,” will major dictionaries expand their definitions of the word “marriage” itself? The answer is simple: They already have. Advocates of traditional marriage who once relied on dictionary definitions to bolster their case for the preservation of “one man-one woman” marriage might have to cite another authority. Boston-based Houghton Mifflin, publisher of the American Heritage Dictionary, added a “same sex” clause to its definition of marriage in 2000. “A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage,” the addition — or “sub sense” — states. “But we’ll be altering that in the future to reflect the Massachusetts decision,” editor Joe Pickett said. “There have been a lot of changes in the defining of family terms in the past 15 years,” Mr. Pickett continued. “A family is not necessarily a ‘nuclear’ family anymore. We’ve also had to re-examine definitions influenced by reproductive technology and accommodate the different possibilities of ‘mother’ and ‘father.’ It’s an interesting time.” The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) retooled “marriage” in 2001. “It’s not so much a redefinition, because our definition did not specify marriage had to be between a man and woman in the first place,” said editor Jesse Sheidlower from OED’s New York headquarters.
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originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Grimpachi
why did they have to expand the definition to include gay marriage if it has always been a thing as some try to state in this thread?
It has never been a right cause i think they would include that in the definition.