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Ukraine crisis: Rockets 'kill 20' in Mariupol

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posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: TryAndStopTheFuture555

They're not "defending themselves" though, are they? Almost an entire Divisions worth of Russian regulars turned "volunteers" is doing so with equipment they seemed to have been allowed to "borrow" while on "leave" then cross the border with...

In fact, if the Russians official line is to be believed, it is a damning indictment of the state of their armed forces where they seem to be unable to stop droves of regulars crossing the border, fully armed and in possession of heavy weaponry taken from the Russian inventory....




posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Fair point - but it does beg the question, if they have just begun an offensive on a city entirely controlled by Kiev, where do they explain those rockets to have come from?

Anyway, I'm not saying their "evil" for doing so, mistakes happen in war and even if the rockets were targeted there on purpose, as with the Ukrainian army in Donetsk, they may well have a legitimate target. It's just unfortunate that the Grad launcher isn't exactly the worlds most accurate weapon.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: noeltrotsky
Yup, the Ukrainians are bombing their own people over and over! Keep dreaming!


New puppet Ukrainian government has already done false flags, snipers at Midan.

Not that separatists couldn't have done this latest shelling as tit for tat

** SNIP **
edit on 1/24/2015 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Of course Kiev is now the puppet of Neocons and Zionists, and poor Americans think Russia will accept being the next target.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Fair point - but it does beg the question, if they have just begun an offensive on a city entirely controlled by Kiev, where do they explain those rockets to have come from?

Anyway, I'm not saying their "evil" for doing so, mistakes happen in war and even if the rockets were targeted there on purpose, as with the Ukrainian army in Donetsk, they may well have a legitimate target. It's just unfortunate that the Grad launcher isn't exactly the worlds most accurate weapon.


It seems it has been filmed and already located where it did come from by locals. I`m sure more evidence will emerge about it soon, just as with there are Western mercenaries in Mariupol.




posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
The pro-Putin team really needs to get on the same page. Is Ukraine being run by Jews or Nazis?


Lol

For years way before Ukraine was in the news, term "zionazis" was all over the internet



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: TryAndStopTheFuture555

They're not "defending themselves" though, are they? Almost an entire Divisions worth of Russian regulars turned "volunteers" is doing so with equipment they seemed to have been allowed to "borrow" while on "leave" then cross the border with..


Again you seem to have a problem with Eastern Ukrainians not rolling over and dying when told to do so.

You also seem to have a problem with them being resourceful



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

Well, someone that reported from the area, ran into a soldier speaking English, apparently with no accent.



Listen at the 2:30 mark ...



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: TryAndStopTheFuture555

Nope, the problem is yours in trying to put words in my mouth.

:lol "resourceful"? They have, in their possession, weapons that could have only come from Russia and not pinched from Ukraine's own inventory, such as the T-72BM



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:36 PM
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According to this blog from someone in Mariupol...



13:00 Another package released. I'm on the Left Bank. Here there is no light, no heat in the morning, knocks mobile communications. Understand who shot a second time, it is difficult. But on the morning shelling citizens are almost unanimous - the Ukrainian side. Flew from west to east through the city. Officially known that killed 10 people, about fifty people were injured.


Google Translate



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: stumason

Funny how you and I see things differently, I for one congratulate them for finding means to stay alive.

You I think would be more happy if Ukraine was already part of NATO on their way supporting next US war. Perhaps this time bombing Iran or pretty much anyone else.

Can't say I am sorry to see US agenda coming to a halt



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: TryAndStopTheFuture555

I saw that your thread was deleted!!! I was reading your internet got cut off as well in a different thread and you suspect an agency.

Strange stuff man...very strange. Keeps your eyes open! I often don't agree with you but sure think you have the right to say it!



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: Hithe Merinos

The second video was just heart wrenching with the sounds of the little innocent child in the back ground, oh God they know not what they do is right, but none of this angry world is worth forgiving.

The brave and worried little voice was truly haunting. I am so so sorry that the world is such a chaos.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

Which means?

In ww2 English speaking German soldiers were so convincing they screwed up the allied response for quite some time during the battle of the bulge.

Now 70 years later the world is much smaller, and English is spoken in almost every single nation on the planet.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: noeltrotsky

I'll tell you an interesting thing just between you and me

If it turns out that they really won't restore my Internet, I will double me overall activity on this and other sites. It is called pushing back.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: stumason

No doubt pal.

Btw, I wasn't trying to be funny I just thought I'd share the excerpt that may have been missed...
It was a long article.


I'm not even saying I necessarily believe the denial, both sides are as trustworthy as each other imo.

& that's true, they may not be evil in intent...

But I guess if it has happened as reported, it's definitely a way of becoming evil...


You're right about the launcher as well.


If the claims are true, I don't know what the rebels expect if they launch indiscriminately into a market.




posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:52 PM
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Some screenshots from the video with the english-speaking soldier:





Original Source



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: TryAndStopTheFuture555
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Of course Kiev is now the puppet of Neocons and Zionists, and poor Americans think Russia will accept being the next target.



When you know that Porkyshenko was in Tel Aviv a couple of days before taking over the reigns of power in Kiev, well you know it stinks
Hey I spent much of my life in Israel and know how it works re Eastern Europe post 1989.



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

Please dont tell me that America is in with the Russians and the takeover? Are they there to protect and defend? The accent was indeed American. These beautiful people, regular everyday people do not deserve this!!!



posted on Jan, 24 2015 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

This was not an invading force, that much was obvious by the nature of the video clip. These Soldiers were there to protect, defend that community...



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