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Decent people do NOT 'need religion' to know the difference between right and wrong.
The bible says they were evil giant people. History says they were the Sumerians (I think, it's irrelevant to the point.). Some of the most advanced people on the planet at one time. So if they weren't evil giant people. Then in was genocide.
From KJV
One of the ways an archeologist knows a site is of animal verses human origins..is evidence of worship. It is one of the indexes of a human site.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: orangetom1999
amazingly enough... most politicians are not only trained liars
but most also consider themselves to be Christian... at least on this side of the planet
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: orangetom1999
From KJV
LOL!!! Go back and read about translations and the vulnerabilities of the population who consume 'publicly released' texts.
LOL LOL LOL I am thinking here of books on economics and how to balance the budget!!! Publically released texts..by Experts.
The science of Economics.
[Quote]Also, do some research into the origins of the KJV. And WHO edited and translated it. And WHY they did.
Then - take a look at the English Civil War.
(hint: it's about how imposed religion and unfair taxes effect people).
Perhaps 'worship' is simply a sign of being hopelessly lost and unable to understand what was going around on them.
And listening to 'cheifs' and 'shamans'.
NOW (on the other hand) WE KNOW BETTER - and we are STILL MORAL ANIMALS. No God required. Instead: Humans learning, via science.
The Moral Animal
Then try Non-Zero (same author).
Then come back and tell me that we have to have God to be socially acceptable creatures.
His research shows that the death toll from democide is far greater than the death toll from war. After studying over 8,000 reports of government-caused deaths, Rummel estimates that there have been 262 million victims of democide in the last century. According to his figures, six times as many people have died from the actions of people working for governments than have died in battle.
Too bad some bronze-aged poorly educated zealots want to destroy it all.
Oh well - if I see an atom bomb mushroom cloud, I'll run INTO it rather than live anymore with assholes all around me.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: orangetom1999
While I agree with your points about war and budgeting, I don't see what that has to do with the topic of the thread.
Perhaps it's just that people 'worship' money and power -
and that INCLUDES religious people. Picture, if you will, the mega-church mansion-dwellers driving around in their choice of a fleet of luxury cars to a yacht.
They are NO BETTER than the corporate moguls - it is all about worshipping money. So - in that case, the idea of "God" has not made a DENT in the self-centered greed and power-slinging, the philandering and chicanery....
Religion is a weapon OR a tool, depending on who is wielding it. Just like a gun.
which is also a definition of a devout and zealous religion called Politics which is so obviously in competition with Christian values and beliefs...
The government and churches are both so hip deep in this lie and deceit.
originally posted by: orangetom1999
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Decent people do NOT 'need religion' to know the difference between right and wrong.
Wow!!! This is an example of modern education. One of the ways an archeologist knows a site is of animal verses human origins..is evidence of worship. It is one of the indexes of a human site.
As to decent people not needing religion....to know the difference between right and wrong... Wow!!
How does this explain a politician. What religion are they practicing as they are definitely devout and zealous about it.
And one is often given to ask if Politicians know the difference in right and wrong as they take more from people who earned it and give it to those who do not earn it.
The media too..what religion are they practicing concerning right and wrong??
You might want to rethink your view of right and wrong and hence your understanding of religion.
NO rocket material needed here folks.
Orangetom
What?!?!
What they look for with arch sites is complexe thinking.. Not religious sites.. Your post was proof of exactly bubkiss....
I guess your meaning humanism. The Darwinianesce phylosophy of doing what's best for the human race.
It's just evolution. Murder is bad for the species because there's less of us. Rape and theft both cause animosity, which is bad for business aka bad for the species aka anti evolution. There's not really any great mystery why we do the things we do biologically.
Then come back and tell me that we have to have God to be socially acceptable creatures.
However going back to the top of the page, I know for a fact that people can be moral without religion, & am a perfect example of such.
No matter whether you like it or not - whether or not 'worship' is an exclusively human thing - it is EVIDENT that "worship" is NOT REQUIRED for civil behavior to be passed down from generatino to generation.
Perhaps 'worship' is simply a sign of being hopelessly lost and unable to understand what was going around on them.
And listening to 'cheifs' and 'shamans'.