Possible Future Drug Makes 8 Hours Seem Like 1000 Years!

Even if it did exist it would be cruel and unusual punishment.




Just because the world CAN do something doesn't mean it SHOULD.
IMO

a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Oh! They found a way to slow down, or mess with peoples perception of time and all they can think of is how to use it to make prisoners seem like there serving more time? Wow...Seems about right.

But hey people should not play with there perception of time. That is some loppy dopy stuff right there. Can anybody say missing time syndrome? All those UFO ubductees may have been on to something, isn't the story always that they were gone for hours but only minutes went by? They may have not been on to something, more like on something.

a reply to: infinityorder
A thousand years is merely just there for shock value. A human does not the mental capacity for thinking or being a thousand years. There are many such drugs which will mess with your perception of time, in fact pretty much all of them do it on some level. This however the only thing it would do is likely mess with the induced person head. It will likely just as much turn them into vegetables as anything, but cope it with fear and that right there is just a real extra long seem like its going on for years nightmare. It would be like going down the rabbit hole, for a very long long time, and probably when you come out. It will lead to one prolonged mind#ery.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: infinityorder
A thousand years is merely just there for shock value. A human does not the mental capacity for thinking or being a thousand years. There are many such drugs which will mess with your perception of time, in fact pretty much all of them do it on some level. This however the only thing it would do is likely mess with the induced person head. It will likely just as much turn them into vegetables as anything, but cope it with fear and that right there is just a real extra long seem like its going on for years nightmare. It would be like going down the rabbit hole, for a very long long time, and probably when you come out. It will lead to one prolonged mind#ery.

How do you know we don't have the capacity for 1000 years? Personally I would love to be able to accumulate a thousand years worth of experience without the side effects of living through all the bad times and seeing my friends/family age past me. Just imagine the types of things you could do with 1000 years worth of education, the depths of study and level of cross discipline insight you could come up with is mind boggling.

a reply to: darkbake
Ya I imagine something of that being the actual result. I mean one thousand years? Really? Most people cant remember what they had for breakfast yesterday, if they tried to think back to specifics of what happened a week ago its like staring straight into the face of limbo....Which is likely what this drug would actually do, turn it all into limbo land. Leading to all kinds of confusion and paranoia and psychosis and who knows what else.

There are parts of the brain which can be stimulated so one could be in a perpetual bliss like heavenly state for a 1000 years in 8 hours.

a reply to: Aazadan
What did you have for breakfast on the march 12 of 2010?

Most people life moment to moment, the human mind only grasps a thousand years in a vague concept. Time itself is a vague concept, its just a measuring tool, it does not exist in and of itself. Remove all that. And well the only likely thing it would really do is confuse the heck out of you. That and you will never be on time for anything.

It wont give you a thousand years of anything. It will just mess with the part of your chemical brain which keeps track of the things around you in relation to everything else. Basically when you remove that, you will not know were you stand in terms of things in the world. It will likely just make you a vegetable as anything else. Basically a chemically induced form of limbo.

Even the whole concept of education is merely a time construct. Besides how are you going to read every book in the library all in 8 hours? Even if you think you have been there for 1000 years. Really you have likely just been going around scratching your head for most of that time. You dig?

Like Einstein said, time is relative. And your 8 hours of being doped up is not relative to my 8 hours of watching you being doped up and walking in circles reading merry had a little lamb. You dig? So really. Its more or less, all in your head. A thousand years have not gone by, the human mind can not even grasp that because no human mind in all of history has ever been aware for a fraction of that time. Merely your perception of time has been cut off, you probably would not even be able to know when to go to work, or pick up your kids, or any other daily function out there which involves a time keeping system.

Time is relative. You would not lose time, you would lose its relativity in terms of things and the world at large as it relates to you.

a reply to: machineintelligence
Yes its all linear circling.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
Like Einstein said, time is relative. And your 8 hours of being doped up is not relative to my 8 hours of watching you being doped up and walking in circles reading merry had a little lamb. You dig? So really. Its more or less, all in your head. A thousand years have not gone by, the human mind can not even grasp that because no human mind in all of history has ever been aware for a fraction of that time. Merely your perception of time has been cut off, you probably would not even be able to know when to go to work, or pick up your kids, or any other daily function out there which involves a time keeping system.

Time is relative. You would not lose time, you would lose its relativity in terms of things and the world at large as it relates to you.

With a drug yes, but part of the conversation was people talking about other concepts such as uploading a persons consciousness to a machine and running it faster. We do this already and can simulate 1000 years of say weather in a few minutes, this is because the cpu cycles that track time from moment to moment happen far faster than reality. Can a drug do this? No. Uploading ourselves to a machine can though, such as the Star Trek DS9 episode people referenced earlier.

That is ultimately a game changer and is the power behind what people talk about when they refer to a technological singularity.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird

Like Einstein said, time is relative. And your 8 hours of being doped up is not relative to my 8 hours of watching you being doped up and walking in circles reading merry had a little lamb. You dig? So really. Its more or less, all in your head. A thousand years have not gone by, the human mind can not even grasp that because no human mind in all of history has ever been aware for a fraction of that time. Merely your perception of time has been cut off, you probably would not even be able to know when to go to work, or pick up your kids, or any other daily function out there which involves a time keeping system.



Time is relative. You would not lose time, you would lose its relativity in terms of things and the world at large as it relates to you.

With a drug yes, but part of the conversation was people talking about other concepts such as uploading a persons consciousness to a machine and running it faster. We do this already and can simulate 1000 years of say weather in a few minutes, this is because the cpu cycles that track time from moment to moment happen far faster than reality. Can a drug do this? No. Uploading ourselves to a machine can though, such as the Star Trek DS9 episode people referenced earlier.



That is ultimately a game changer and is the power behind what people talk about when they refer to a technological singularity.

Exactly, or just influence the dream world through technology.

There is a movement to do this in our scientific world today, not only do they want to record dreams, but they also want to control them too.

Meaning the dream world can be a virtual learning world, or ones own personal reality.

a reply to: Aazadan
Your telling me they can simulate the weather for the next thousand years. Yet they more then often get it wrong on if its going to be sunny or rain in there predictions for the next day, Sometimes when all you have to do is go outside and look up?

I think the key word here is simulate. I can break down the specifics of what your saying. But really, what would be the point of that. I think there would be no point. So I wont.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: Aazadan

Your telling me they can simulate the weather for the next thousand years. Yet they more then often get it wrong on if its going to be sunny or rain in there predictions for the next day, Sometimes when all you have to do is go outside and look up?



I think the key word here is simulate. I can break down the specifics of what your saying. But really, what would be the point of that. I think there would be no point. So I wont.

Dude you can simulate the entire universe, how do you think the brian see's things in the first place. When you dream you simulate everything, you are the seer and seen. This can be controled for the betterment of our civilization and lifestyles.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

How about something else altogether,? whenever I go powder skiing I am usually so excited the night before
that I cannot sleep, then when I am standing at the edge of a virgin snowfield I get extremely nervous that
I might mess up and create holes in the snow and then when I am finally doing it its over before you can really
get into it.
Now imagine the last bit in slow motion...

originally posted by: simplesurfer
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
How about something else altogether,? whenever I go powder skiing I am usually so excited the night before

that I cannot sleep, then when I am standing at the edge of a virgin snowfield I get extremely nervous that

I might mess up and create holes in the snow and then when I am finally doing it its over before you can really

get into it.

Now imagine the last bit in slow motion...

That sounds increadibly dangerous, however if we could develop a kind of split mind, one that experiences 1000 years every 8 hours while the other stays in the normal world we may be able to accomplish alot more in very interesting ways.

I guess you may eventually develop something to be like the flash or quicksilver from the comics. Mind over matter so to say, may need a bit of genetic tweaking to get it just perfect.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Influencing dreams is really not that hard to do. Eating a bad burrito for lunch or before going to bead would do that or watching a movie or reading a book before you go to bead can do that, or surfing the net. You can also do it by sending electric signals or you know if you could somehow message certain parts of the brain, ie wavelengths which disturb normal electrical signals going on in certain parts, like the part that controls fear, well then you have a nightmare, other parts and you have other dreams. So ya! Technically it can be done, and should not really be that hard to do.

I am surprised they did not do a test already were you have a guy hooked up to a machine put him to sleep and just sap areas of his brain to see what happens. But they probably do already. Some link I found on the fear centers of the brain. Random link

As for false memories. I think that video showed. Its hard to come onto a memory which is not false. We all see the world through our own filters, memories no less are the same. The mouse, well I think it got a taste of fake shock therapy. So really the challenge would be in somehow implanting true memories. Whatever those are.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Some would say that would be redundant. I always did say we are not in the matrix, we are the matrix.

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Even more nefarious would be the elites using this against the 99%
Manipulating the general population into thinking that their lives have been
lived to the fullest, only to condition the next new naive generation.
The cone-heads are desperate and will do anything to control the people.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Some would say that would be redundant. I always did say we are not in the matrix, we are the matrix.

Lol indeed we may in fact be the matrix, both seer and seen. . .

But who are we kidding I think some of us may know of all our infinate potentials and are just waiting for our chance to evolve. . .

A bump here a nudge there and we are like the Q from Star Trek!

I should get a bumper sticker that says Q or bust! Lolz

I know there is 9 pages but am I the only one that sees this with a Viagra and a hot girl as not a bad thing?