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originally posted by: AnuTyr
a reply to: infinityorder
If the ghost towns don't prove the hilarious irony of the system i don't know what will.
maybe when people decide to sqatt or make their own towns and just * live * there.
We would really see just how free we are when the police and army comes to stop a new country from developing within.
originally posted by: Tusks
To the "Pinko"s against landlords---buy your own property and then you won't have to pay rent. And you will also become familiar with the idea of personal responsibility.
Of course what you really want is to be given housing---and food, and medical care, and entertainment.
Without ownership of property(including weapons) , one is a slave---likely a willing slave at first, but still a slave. And perhaps one who is willing to kill or steal to achieve it.
Communism is insanity and murder at its core.
originally posted by: AlaskanDad
a reply to: Tusks
Your weapons are for killing your fellow man, if they are part of a government or if you decide they are takers or communists?
How does that relate to the difference of wealth extraction vs wealth creation?
How is it that wealth creation rather than extraction earns one the tittles of pinko or communist?
Is it wrong to consider how your actions effect others?
Thinking only of ones self and not considering how it may effect others is the definition of a sociopath.
originally posted by: AnuTyr
a reply to: Mandroid7
Making a small income well helping house the population is fine. I never said it wasn't. Expecially if you did something to revamp a place and make it liveable.
Contractors are defenantly the worst hit by this kind of economy. Sure there are some *Mega* contracting companies that do exactly what i described. And it leaves ghost towns LOL.
Fixing up old places for a living is a lot different than people who hunt property and just *sit* on it till the value goes up.
For anarchists, capitalism is marked by the exploitation of labour by capital. While this is most famously expressed by Proudhon's "property is theft," this perspective can be found in all forms of anarchism. - See more at: www.infoshop.org...
At the root this criticism is based, ironically enough, on the capitalist defence of private property as the product of labour. As noted in section B.4.2, Locke defended private property in terms of labour yet allowed that labour to be sold to others. This allowed the buyers of labour (capitalists and landlords) to appropriate the product of other people's labour (wage workers and tenants) and so, in the words of dissident economist David Ellerman, "capitalist production, i.e. production based on the employment contract denies workers the right to the (positive and negative) fruit of their labour. - See more at: www.infoshop.org...
originally posted by: Jamie1
originally posted by: Edumakated
You mofo's need to go back to freshman year of college and study basic economics. Seriously. The constant drivel about the rich and how unfair it is that some people make investments is just tiresome. If any of you have a pension, 401k, or any other kind of investments you are making unearned income.
People invest their money hoping to get a return. There is a level risk associated as you may actually lose your money. You know that old adage of risk and reward. The greater the risk, the greater the reward.
Choosing to invest in real estate or other asset classes hoping to get a return is not evil. The point is you see value in something that someone else may not. That asset's value increases and you reap the reward because you took the risk of investing your money (or leveraging up with a mortgage or other debt).
I bought a condo in a neighborhood that most people seemed to ignore, but I saw potential. Took out a 100% loan at the time to buy it. I maintained the property, shopped at my neighborhood stores, etc. Next thing you know, the neighborhood is all of a sudden really popular and my condo increased in value by $100k. I sold it and reaped the capital gain from selling a price higher than I paid. How is this evil? I could have also lost my azz by the value going down.
The alternative to investment income is ALWAYS being forced to trade your time for money.
I say that our real estate market is being artificially inflated by investment and this led to the 2008 bailout. The real estate market should have been allowed to fail which would have taken real estate values to their true market values.
originally posted by: TheTengriist
a reply to: grandmakdw
Well, why do social programs exist? There are two primary reasons.
1) People are not paid their worth
2) Poverty is next to impossible to escape.