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Northrop Grumman announces fighter bid

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posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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Officials at Northrop Grumman have announced an ambitious entry into the next generation fighter competition expected to start within the next few years.

The Air Force and Navy will be developing separate requirements under the F-X and F/A-XX programs. In response to this NG has stood up two teams, each developing a separate platform.

It appears they will be going with a tailless supersonic design, based on comments made. It may also be optionally manned.

Milestone A requirements for the F-X program are expected to be released in 2018.

www.defensenews.com...




posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

just so i can say it now before anyone else, triangles



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Regarding the likely "tailless supersonic design", are we getting to a stage where outright, unmanned aircraft is less complex. Is the need to keep a fragile & fleshy bag of fluid, conscious and functional just too much of a hindrance in modern air warfare, when perhaps this role could be best performed at g1 in a comfortable trailer much like drone pilots or computers operating semi-autonomously.

Will the whole F-35 debacle affect funding for next-gen projects or will there be just lots of talk about managing budget over-runs with open cheque books ?

Please forgive my complete ignorance of the topic Zaphod58



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: penroc3

What about discs?

Next gen indeed.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: grey580

i guess discs are good for super sonic speeds, maybe they got the control surfaces down now? what a cool time to be alive for aviation that such things are totally doable



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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Nice to see they aren't going to repeat the F-35's "one tool to do all" mantra.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Just a little humor.

This prodject might even be compleded and operational before the F-35 is operational



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: spy66

lets see if the can get the cannon going in under 5 years



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: spy66

lets see if the can get the cannon going in under 5 years


Its like i have heard them say. The F-35 Project is a workfarm to keep the ants accupied.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 04:15 PM
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I'm surprised a next gen fighter is being started now with the F35 program still just getting rolling. Does Northrop have some amazing tail-less tech that they simply think needs to be implemented immediately? Is it the rumored fighter drone that everyone fears so much?

If they can implement pilotless drone tech into a fighter platform then they can massively raise the speed and maneuvering abilities as human limitations are already lower than fighter technology. This is what the next generation fighter will likely be all about.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: spy66

They need to. The F15's aren't going to last much longer.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: UmbraSumus

They need to get better fully autonomous onboard software or A.I. that can dogfight without a slow data link to some remote operator. They are working on it and getting there but are not there yet from what I understand.
The unmanned version NG referred to be slaved to a manned version or have a strike role as opposed to a air superiority roll.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: Sammamishman

why not link up to the LRS-B and fly a few fighters swarm style



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: noeltrotsky

It's an acceptance of the fact that they're facing 20 years of development, and not waiting to get it started.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: Sammamishman
a reply to: spy66

They need to. The F15's aren't going to last much longer.


That is true. I dont think the F-16s have much more life left in them either.

But i do like the new concept much better than the F-35s.

It might even have been cheeper to take up the Black Widow again?



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: penroc3

Now you're talk'n.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 06:17 PM
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edit on 22-1-2015 by Sammamishman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: spy66

There's rumor that the Black Widow never really went away.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: UmbraSumus
a reply to: Zaphod58

Regarding the likely "tailless supersonic design", are we getting to a stage where outright, unmanned aircraft is less complex. Is the need to keep a fragile & fleshy bag of fluid, conscious and functional just too much of a hindrance in modern air warfare, when perhaps this role could be best performed at g1 in a comfortable trailer much like drone pilots or computers operating semi-autonomously.


Sure. Until you consider the sophistication of ECM in 20 years: attack the craft and the satellites it is talking to. Sure you can make an autonomous 'fail safe mode' to fly home without help, but that's a successful Denial Of Capability vulnerability.



Will the whole F-35 debacle affect funding for next-gen projects or will there be just lots of talk about managing budget over-runs with open cheque books ?


Who is the chairman of the House committee then? If it's Jenna Bush, then expect lots of pork in Texas.
edit on 22-1-2015 by mbkennel because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 07:17 PM
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"Does it have DSI inlets?"

-Chinese airforce fanboy




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