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originally posted by: lordcomac
I've heard several people claim factually that under Obama (and I don't want this thread to be about him please) the debt has dropped.
So am I missing something when I hear people saying the debt is being paid off? Am I just totally misunderstanding something?
originally posted by: nOraKat
This is 1 million dollars in $100 dollar bills.
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This is 1 billion dollars in $100 dollar bills.
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And now this is 1 trillion dollars!
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Now I wonder what the interest collected on this for 1 year looks like?
Now I wonder who's big fat pockets they go into?
originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
debt and deficit are not the same thing.deficit is how much you spend over your budget. Debt is the accumulation of those deficits.reducing the deficit just means you're not digging the hole as fast as you were before.
originally posted by: NightFlight
We borrow money from them through the FED.
originally posted by: NightFlight
Kind sir, we do not own the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is not part of the U.S. Government.
Legal status of regional Federal Reserve Banks[edit]
The Federal Reserve Banks have an intermediate legal status, with some features of private corporations and some features of public federal agencies. The United States has an interest in the Federal Reserve Banks as tax-exempt federally created instrumentalities whose profits belong to the federal government, but this interest is not proprietary.[82] In Lewis v. United States,[83] the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit stated that: "The Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the FTCA [the Federal Tort Claims Act], but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations." The opinion went on to say, however, that: "The Reserve Banks have properly been held to be federal instrumentalities for some purposes." Another relevant decision is Scott v. Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City,[82] in which the distinction is made between Federal Reserve Banks, which are federally created instrumentalities, and the Board of Governors, which is a federal agency.
Regarding the structural relationship between the twelve Federal Reserve banks and the various commercial (member) banks, political science professor Michael D. Reagan has written that:[84]
... the "ownership" of the Reserve Banks by the commercial banks is symbolic; they do not exercise the proprietary control associated with the concept of ownership nor share, beyond the statutory dividend, in Reserve Bank "profits." ... Bank ownership and election at the base are therefore devoid of substantive significance, despite the superficial appearance of private bank control that the formal arrangement creates.
originally posted by: NightFlight
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The text will not say where the interest goes, but "follow the money".