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originally posted by: Domo1
legislators now can demand a student's social media password.
According to KTVI, Illinois schools could only take action against bullying if the post on Facebook or other social media occurred during the school day. The new law gives school districts and colleges the ability to demand a student's social media password regardless if it was posted after hours.
You have got to be kidding me.
I'm no fan of bullying, but bullying isn't going to be stopped by invading students private accounts. I don't see how this is at all legal, and I really can't see it holding up if challenged.
Schools should have 0 freaking ability to access a students account, even if the student was using the account while at school. It's a huge breach of trust.
If a kid is using his smart phone in class, by all means, confiscate the phone. If a student bullies another kid at school, by all means take action. You do not have the right to have full access to their personal social media accounts.
Think about all the communications that these kids think would be private being combed over because the kid called another kid a name. Think how much room for abuse there is.
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originally posted by: Helious
I live in Illinois and they have about as much chance of enforcing this as the law against sodomy. Any school trying to force my son or daughter to disclose anything without me present or against their will, WILL be met with absolute resistance and the merit in that stance is that I am far from the only one.
This is gross and profane overreach, it will not stand the test of time nor the test of parents.
An ACLU news release says the student, referred to only as "R.S." was taken into a school administrator's office where she was "coerced" by school officials and a local deputy to give up her Facebook password "because of allegations that she had online conversations about sex with another student off-campus." The ACLU alleges the girl was "intimidated, frightened, humiliated and sobbing" during the interrogation.
"R.S. was called a liar and told she would be given detentions if she did not give the adults access to her accounts," the release says. The student's mother wasn't told about the search until it had already happened, according to the release.
"Students do not shed their First Amendment rights at the school house gate," Charles Samuelson, Executive Director for the ACLU-Minnesota said in the release. "The Supreme Court ruled on that in the 1970s, yet schools like Minnewaska seem to have no regard for the standard."
Lt. Tory Jacobson of the Moorhead Police told WDAY, “If we are doing a criminal investigation, we have probable cause. If we needed to we could draft a search warrant to try and obtain that information.”
Officials told CNN the school district acted responsibly.
Facebook follows the news just like you do. And it's been paying attention to the weird and worrying new trend that employers have asked prospective employees for their Facebook passwords during the hiring process.
Today, Facebook, in the name of "protecting your passwords and privacy," has made it a violation of its Statement of Rights and Responsibilities to "share or solicit a Facebook password."
"We don't think employers should be asking prospective employees to provide their passwords because we don't think it's right the thing to do," Erin Egan, Facebook's Chief Privacy Officer, explains. "But it also may cause problems for the employers that they are not anticipating. For example, if an employer sees on Facebook that someone is a member of a protected group (e.g. over a certain age, etc.) that employer may open themselves up to claims of discrimination if they don't hire that person."
Except, of course, it wouldn't be just on users' behalf; the notional suits would be as much about protecting Facebook as about protecting its legions of account-holders. "If you are a Facebook user," Egan notes, "you should never have to share your password, let anyone access your account, or do anything that might jeopardize the security of your account or violate the privacy of your friends." The key phrase being, actually, violate the privacy of your friends. The policy update is a striking admission of the value of the connections that live and grow on Facebook's platform: A violation of one user's privacy through password access is, implicitly, the violation of the privacy of all of that user's friends and family and coworkers and former coworkers and random acquaintances and elementary school classmates and bowling league teammates and former flames.
And, sure: It's easy to see today's announcement simply as a convenient PR play on the part of a network that is better known for violations, rather than defenses, of its users' privacy. And that likely has at least something to do with the policy change. It's more interesting, though, to see the update as a reminder of the core and crucial role of the network aspect of Facebook's social network. On Facebook, privacy isn't personal and it isn't private. It is collective. It is shared. And that means that the violation of privacy is shared as well.
Worse? How about the kid that decides to come out as gay on Facebook. Hypothetical, what happens if he comes out as gay and mom and dad don't know, and hypothetically the school gets involved and tells them? Maybe Mom and Dad don't approve. Has the school just sentenced this kid to a near death beating?
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: DYepes
this sounds like both my kids. They close their FB accounts about twice a year each. The truth: it how they thin family from the ranks of their friends list.
originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Anyafaj
Worse? How about the kid that decides to come out as gay on Facebook. Hypothetical, what happens if he comes out as gay and mom and dad don't know, and hypothetically the school gets involved and tells them? Maybe Mom and Dad don't approve. Has the school just sentenced this kid to a near death beating?
Imagine the school finding out a girl had an abortion or something too.
Also imagine police finding out that there was a picture of someone doing something illegal. Betting the school would be obligated to forward that on, and then you have some very clear constitutional violations.
And this isn't just grade school kids, this is students in freaking college too. I don't know why that makes it seem worse, but it does.
originally posted by: FamCore
I actually had to give up my passwords for all of my social media/email accounts at one point for a "job" opportunity, although in reality it was just a family friend on a power trip trying to control every aspect of my life. I didn't feel very secure when other people had those passwords. I also didn't really use social media so maybe it was kind of a good thing. But I certainly didn't feel okay about the fact that somebody else had my info and could peruse all of my previous online activities... some people just need to try to control everything
a reply to: Domo1
Today, Facebook, in the name of "protecting your passwords and privacy," has made it a violation of its Statement of Rights and Responsibilities to "share or solicit a Facebook password."
"We don't think employers should be asking prospective employees to provide their passwords because we don't think it's right the thing to do," Erin Egan, Facebook's Chief Privacy Officer, explains. "But it also may cause problems for the employers that they are not anticipating. For example, if an employer sees on Facebook that someone is a member of a protected group (e.g. over a certain age, etc.) that employer may open themselves up to claims of discrimination if they don't hire that person."
Except, of course, it wouldn't be just on users' behalf; the notional suits would be as much about protecting Facebook as about protecting its legions of account-holders. "If you are a Facebook user," Egan notes, "you should never have to share your password, let anyone access your account, or do anything that might jeopardize the security of your account or violate the privacy of your friends." The key phrase being, actually, violate the privacy of your friends. The policy update is a striking admission of the value of the connections that live and grow on Facebook's platform: A violation of one user's privacy through password access is, implicitly, the violation of the privacy of all of that user's friends and family and coworkers and former coworkers and random acquaintances and elementary school classmates and bowling league teammates and former flames.
And, sure: It's easy to see today's announcement simply as a convenient PR play on the part of a network that is better known for violations, rather than defenses, of its users' privacy. And that likely has at least something to do with the policy change. It's more interesting, though, to see the update as a reminder of the core and crucial role of the network aspect of Facebook's social network. On Facebook, privacy isn't personal and it isn't private. It is collective. It is shared. And that means that the violation of privacy is shared as well.
Facebook is making it now where they can sue YOU for revealing your passwords to your employer because you violated the privacy of everyone on your friend's list.
originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Anyafaj
Facebook is making it now where they can sue YOU for revealing your passwords to your employer because you violated the privacy of everyone on your friend's list.
Sue the employer not the little guy.
I keep wanting to make another Facebook account because I feel a bit left out, but I just can't bring myself to do it.