posted on Jan, 20 2015 @ 11:37 PM
Even if Satan were a part of God in some way, like even God having the Angel and Devil on his shoulders, that still seems like it may have little or a
lot, to do with what Good and Evil may mean to and for us. We design our 'law', not that I know much about it, but loosely on the nature of 'good
and evil' or right and wrong. So in a sense it might seem, that our political power, or business power, our judicial power, which all stems from our
personal power, struggles to abide by and take part in actions of good and evil. If good and evil exist, as concepts, as potential actions and thus
relations between objects, as abstraction, as temporal or eternal; then they do so objectively (i.e. life is good; you need to eat food to live;
eating food is good), and/or subjectively (it is good to pay x amount of tax, person A must pay x amount of tax or that person is bad). Any main
objective good requires some sacrifice; mainly the constant sacrifice to 'not be bad'.
Without law; good; equally ones life, was the sole expresser of 'law', good and evil, and good was 'do whatever you can possibly do to remain
alive, and whatever else you felt like'.
It can potentially successfully be argued to relative degrees that that final expression still predominately holds true today. And certainly there
are infinite ethical situations in which the nature of action and law reverts back to the primal and eternal, life is good, my life is how I know
this, my life is good, nothing is more important than my life.
The situation is more and less quantities of the dual nature of that primal ultimate selfishness, and the sacrifice of that pure selfishness, for the
potential order and goodness that comes from such thing (law, at all).
Has any bible scholar theorized about what God best desires for humankind's economic systems and goals?
What does God desire man to desire to come of their life?
What is good work to god?
Thus far, good work to man, has been work which has distanced us away from living like monkeys.
The nature of; quality of life.
In the system of good, it is supposed to be that one trades in their good work for quality of life.
What more can man want?
Well, the means of purchasing quality of life, is money.
well, what does this have to do with God and Satan, im not sure I went off topic I think...
It is possible God even sympathizes with the Devil, (maybe he ever gets jealous), maybe the totality and absolute nature of the perfect good that God
represents is theoretically impossible and meaningless. Or like I mentioned, maybe the Devil is Gods dark side. The thing that is iffy, as all of
this is, is that I am quite sure that the nature of order at all, is required for being. The devil must be made of out some patterns and regularities
and law abiding substance, and it is the very fact of that, which is body, which is being, and it must be said too that I suppose body and being
require deviations and change amongst the patterns and regularity, (chaos) or else it would just be a repeating pattern, a for some reason, maybe
obvious reason/s, complexity is the name of the game, and I am wondering how complex things can get while utilizing only deviationless patterns and
regularity. So I dont think the devil can desire pure chaos, because the meaning of such 'a thing' as pure chaos I dont know if it can even make
sense, or ever amount to 'anything', in a sense of, ever amounting to the existence of body, being. And perhaps God cannot desire 'perfect
order', because perfect order is motionless, timelessness (I am supposing). And so the nature of this battle between order and chaos, is the one
that occurs on all levels of reality, in seemingly infinite varying degrees, right up to and right down to our most important level. Where we must
experience first hand, report honestly to ourselves, and to history, our knowledge and relationship with that which is, 'whatever Good and Evil can
be and mean', and how well our knowledge, reason, and action is backed up by what can be known, and what we know, and seemingly infinitely etc.
I have a hard time imagining that a supreme and ultimate intelligence would think it supremely and ultimately intelligent to determine the fate of an
immortal soul in the span of such a finite lifetime, but what do I know. I can only judge of my self, I personally would not be convinced of lack of
room to change.
If God would always forgive the Devil, than why wouldnt everyone just be the Devil, including God, do all the evil that can be done, and then
immediately cast infinite forgiveness spell?
actually being afraid of not getting into paradise because of how many times you did or did not say the words in your head "god exists god exists god
exists god exists" must not be what a supreme, divine creator would want its creation to do to show its glory for the goodness of life.
So is it like, God is a great builder with all the secrets of knowledge and physique, and Satan does not want to learn or care or worry about
building and knowledge, but just wants to thrash about and have fun? Just feeling, and acting? A more short term approach, do whatever makes you
feel good and happy?
Do whatever makes you feel good and happy; being the ultimate expression and statement of Goodness too, but with the caveat of '*unless, its killing
and stealing and raping'.
God then is the imposing of rules, of agreeing to and obeying rules. For 'the good'? For the good of being, in a long term manner? Valuing being
the most. Value being around other humans, which creates the values and goodnesses and qualities of living of society. Therefore, agreeing to value
other peoples being, enough to sacrifice your ultimate primal desires, for, the good of the goodness greater than just your own.
I suppose then it is seen, the biggest problem we might have, is determining what actions God really might not be ok with and why? Boxing? Ice
cream? Electricity? Mustaches? Beer? Non marital sex? Ballet? The homeless?
What does the Devil want, that he does not need to depend on Goodness to get/achieve?
And does that not matter, does not rules or meaning matter or apply, only the actual sensation itself, of physical information and the way it exists
and moves, is that the ultimate value, and is it all about the numbers, and the proportions in relation to ones very exact being.
Does God and the Devil both desire Novelty? Just what of is where they differ? Do they agree on anything? infinite things?
Can this all be summed up as God being a baby building sandcastles and the Devil a baby that steps on them, eternally, and novel humans pop up and
through their actions are determined whether they side with the builder or the destroyer?