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Fox News Finally Admits "Serious Factual Error" In Segment About Muslim "Zones"

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posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

You must have seen too much if you think there is "much worse" things than rape.



Trust the evil Muslims to think of worse than that.




posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

They did, no doubt about it.

STM



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: seentoomuch

You must have seen too much if you think there is "much worse" things than rape.



Trust the evil Muslims to think of worse than that.




The young women of Rotherham could tell you of the evils of repeated rape and shaming and abuse.

If you were willing to listen to them.



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: Seamrog


It IS NOT SO in the islamic neighborhoods.

It is neither a racial matter, nor a matter of extremism. It is a matter of cultural and ideological defect in islam that surfaces like a festering splinter in your finger.

In their case, a religion dictates their ideology. Skin color and sexual preference dictates certain ideologies too. The point I was trying to make was, it all boils down to the same barbarianism, violence. Whether it be physical or mental, singling out their religion as the driving force is forgetting that a man can give life with the same tools as he deals death.

"I think therefore I act."

The Qur'an is only wielded as such in the mind of the beholder. The "mind" is the enemy and radical Islam can run parallel with any other countries bigoted and racial hate crimes. It hasn't been the first time in history that an offshoot of religion has killed for their God.


edit on 21-1-2015 by eisegesis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

I wish you had been with me when they stoned me. I'm sure your words would have stopped those stones in mid air.

Sometimes words are just words when the moment is dire, no help at all. Any woman not wearing proper Muslim dress is a whore in their eyes. You would've been stoned too.

STM



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis




In their case, a religion dictates their ideology.




Hogwash.

Acceptance of a religion allows ideology.




The Qur'an is only wielded as such in the mind of the beholder. Focus on the minds of men and not the words that it acts upon. The "mind" is the enemy and radical Islam can run parallel with an other countries bigoted and racial hate crimes.



islam is wielded not in the mind of the beholder, but in his actions.

The brutal actions of the islamists are exponentially more profane than the words they use to justify them.



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: seentoomuch
a reply to: eisegesis

I wish you had been with me when they stoned me. I'm sure your words would have stopped those stones in mid air.

Sometimes words are just words when the moment is dire, no help at all. Any woman not wearing proper Muslim dress is a whore in their eyes. You would've been stoned too.

STM


Nobody said that what you went through wasn't as horrible as you say it was. The feeling when being attacked by a group of people is absolutely horrifying. You're scared, sick, shaky, mentally irrational and you don't know whether to scream, cry, or laugh like a mad man because trying to process emotions in a normal way just won't work. It's the worst feeling ever and it sticks with you in weird ways after too. Especially the first time you're truly afraid and don't know what's going to happen to you. For a women I'm sure there may even be other effects I'm unaware of, I don't know. But you realize that isn't exactly something new or unheard of for millions of people who have also been in a similar situation or worse right??

I realize it is very vivid and terrifying for you since you were the target, nobody is trying to minimize that. But sadly things like that happen to people every day and much worse as well. So what is it about Muslims that make their violence any different???

Don't just dismiss the question like I just don't understand or some BS like that, that's a cop out response. Obviously you're not the only person who's been jumped or attacked on here. I mean this place is full of cops, soldiers, firemen, convicts, you name it. Believe me, someone here I'm sure has a worse story than yours.



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

What happened in Paris regarding attacks is beyond all. It's not just me I'm posting about, they tried to kill thousands in the most horrible ways. They considered everyone as rats that needed killing . . And how do you kill a rat? That's what happened there. They tried 2 methods for their extermination. I don't want a repeat so I won't say more. But I will say that those were the worst moments of my life.

STM



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: Seamrog


It is a worldwide virus

What's your solution?

Is this virus spreading fast or is it under control for now?


only the willing blind refuse to acknowledge it.

I'm only half blind thankfully. Purposefully shoved a fork in my eye while watching FOX News.




posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: seentoomuch

I don't doubt that in the least. It's unlike the fear of almost being in a car accident or falling off your roof or anything like that. There is a very real and primal sickening feeling and it's no wonder that prolonged or frequent experiences of it causes long term mental stress in people. I can only imagine POW's and victims of sex slavery and stuff like that must deal with unbelievable issues depending upon their own experiences and their ability to work through it.

But these rouge pockets of radicals aren't new to the history of brutality within humanity. They won't be successful for too long either. They never are. Their novelty will wear off and crumble like all the rest. Even now every new variation already has to step up their game just to be noticed. From the Taliban to Al Qeada, to ISIS, to Boko Haram. Each new version has to out brutalize the next and you can't do that forever nor is it stable enough to become a great power. It inherently has too much chaos to organize itself past a certain point.

What is much more significant is the organizing power that is financing, arming and quietly leading the hurricane. Sooner or later will burn out like all the rest. I think it's better to focus on the conditions which allow for it to start and the reasons and/or members who focus it in to actions myself. Beyond ideology and the ability to do violence there are very real and tangible reasons why things like this reach a point where they become significant on the world stage.



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Now that is a post I can mostly agree with, not all though, but very well written. S for you.

ETA: If I told you what they attempted and one did work you would freak out, no doubt. Stuff of nightmares, that's what they are.

STM

edit on 21-1-2015 by seentoomuch because: My grammar sucks.



posted on Jan, 21 2015 @ 11:39 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

I know your post wasn't addressed to me, please allow me to say a few words in response.

If you open a door what do you get? Lots of people wandering in, right? Some are good, some not good. If you shut the door and only open it to people that are sponsored by US citizens and their background is checked maybe you won't have so much craziness? That's how they used to do it, don't know if they still do. Student visas really need sponsorship from now on too, that is very clear.

STM



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: Seamrog

Interested in your comment here - Are you from Rotherham?



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 03:27 AM
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Although I have only skimmed through Paris...I'm dead certain there are...at least unofficial no-go zones. Hell...my city has them, and it's nowhere near the size of Paris.

They are not mentioned in the tourist brouchures...but we the locals know about them.

The muslims thing is and will be an ever growing problem world wide. Trying to integrate a non secular ideology into a secular society. It will not work. We don't share the same values...in fact our values are almost opposite.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 03:53 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

So are you saying it won't work ever???

Even here in the US???

Does that mean Christian and Secular Society also is impossible to mix???



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 04:53 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

So are you saying it won't work ever???

Even here in the US???

Does that mean Christian and Secular Society also is impossible to mix???


I'm saying it won't work. I'm of Christian denomination. I was born a christian, and force fed the propaganda from the early age...as I'm sure most of us have been. Still, I do not, and most Christians don't...declare themselves Christian as a first. We are first French, British, American, German or whatever....but Muslims...are Muslims first...everything else doesn't even come close second.

It's the way they approach their religious doctrine with dangerous fervor and conviction. Way too serious for not-serious-about-out-faith Christians. That's why it works in the west...because we're not too serious about it. Nobody get's legally punished for religious transgressions. It's a matter of personal choice in the west...and that's the way we like it.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Seamrog


It is a worldwide virus

What's your solution?




The solution is Jesus Christ. It is that simple.

The koran and the hadith simply cannot, and will never stand to the scrutiny that the Christian Church imposed on its own revelation.

A critical examination quickly exposes the folly of these texts, and casts dubious light on muhammad.

Unfortunately, western culture frowns at saying anything that may upset the sensibilities of muslims - to its own peril.

What do with a virus? You inoculate - in the case, with the Light of Truth.

Until that time, we'll have angry young men believing they'll meet 72 virgins after they murder a bus load of Jews going about their day.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: Seamrog




The solution is Jesus Christ. It is that simple.




Oh yeah...your god is better than theirs.

It's exactly why we're in this mess to begin with.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 09:10 AM
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Sisi tells Davos 2015: ‘no one can monopolize the truth’

“We must change the religious discourse and remove things that have led to violence,”

“No one can monopolize the truth. No one should believe their ideas are better than others,” Sisi added.

“Islam is a religion with values of tolerance. It should not be evaluated by the actions of murderers,” he said. “We must mobilize all our efforts to eliminate the scourge of terrorism.”

“If we are able to reach peace between Israel and Palestine we will create a new reality in the region,” he said.

“We welcome all ideas which will encourage Palestinians and Israelis to reach peace,” he said.

Preach it brother

english.alarabiya.net...



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Sorry that upsets you.

If everyone imitated Jesus Christ, we would have Heaven on earth.

If everyone imitated muhummad, we would have Hell on earth.



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