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I therefore propose to you that at this course of human events, there must be a permissible and allowable separation of those in this nation to be allowed to peacefully and amicably leave, without recrimination and without being called traitors, with the full understanding that if they choose eventually to come back to this nation, they are permitted so.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
originally posted by: Expat888
Why should those who choose to follow no religion be forced to leave the country ?
There is separation of church and state for good reason.
Theres also the right of people to follow or not follow the religion of their choice ..
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Wow, I'm kinda speechless.
I'll let you & others decide which way to take this thread!
I just wanted to make sure it was on my list.
originally posted by: nullafides
I ask you, Honorable Sir, please do something about the fact that water........
IS WET!
FFS, do you even HAVE a point? Do you have something you could state in, oh, 20 words or less?
Wow, I want my freaking time back. It was ENTIRELY wasted reading your silly bit of drivel.
-NF
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: WarminIndy
Gotta love the hypocrisy of those who scream out for "Freedom" but yet beg the government to create laws to prohibit the freedoms of others?
It isn't hard to understand the meaning of freedom, unless your a selfish, narcissistic individual who loves to push your opinions on others by using legislation to do so?
I think that most of us adults should be able to think about the above statements and realize that quite possibly, it isn't the government so much that is the problem, but those of us who are so "thin skinned" that every time we are offended by someone whom has different beliefs than we do, that we scream out like spoiled children for the government to create more laws to protect our "fragile minds"?
And yet we wonder why things have become the way they are?
originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: WarminIndy
Color me dense, but, I kind of THOUGHT there might be some point in there, somewhere. Lots of folks seem to be incapable of coming to a point. Often though, here at least, many can. Silly points, laughable ones, serious ones.
But at least to a point.
Yours is the first that I've ever actually put my damned foot down and demanded my time back.
-NF
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: WarminIndy
Gotta love the hypocrisy of those who scream out for "Freedom" but yet beg the government to create laws to prohibit the freedoms of others?
It isn't hard to understand the meaning of freedom, unless your a selfish, narcissistic individual who loves to push your opinions on others by using legislation to do so?
I think that most of us adults should be able to think about the above statements and realize that quite possibly, it isn't the government so much that is the problem, but those of us who are so "thin skinned" that every time we are offended by someone whom has different beliefs than we do, that we scream out like spoiled children for the government to create more laws to protect our "fragile minds"?
And yet we wonder why things have become the way they are?
We have the most privileged young populace on the planet.
They just don't realize how good they have it in this country. Yes, there are poor people here, yes, there is a widening gap, but that widening gap between poor and wealth, I have heard it my entire life.
But overall, we have a young people so privileged they can go to college wherever they want, they can play sports and video games all they want, they can eat wherever they want, they can even drink when they come of age.
They don't have it so bad here, so it makes me wonder why they can't see what is going on elsewhere in the world.
May I respectfully remind you, Honorable Sir, that the Declaration of Independence does not imply separation of church and state, therefore, the populace cannot extricate itself from its duty to guarantee religious freedom or freedom from religion for the populace.
As we have a plethora of religious world views abiding for the most part peacefully in this nation, then some attempt should be made for the allowance of those desiring no religion to be allowed to move away. I am not asking that you deport them or expel them, just allow them to diplomatically leave and enter into nations that have no religions.
But, Honorable Sir, there are those who by conscience choose to live without religion, but the demands of forcing all religion from this nation so far has not led to any major conflicts, has caused young people to not only question their own rights and privileges in this nation, but those of others.
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: WarminIndy
Gotta love the hypocrisy of those who scream out for "Freedom" but yet beg the government to create laws to prohibit the freedoms of others?
It isn't hard to understand the meaning of freedom, unless your a selfish, narcissistic individual who loves to push your opinions on others by using legislation to do so?
I think that most of us adults should be able to think about the above statements and realize that quite possibly, it isn't the government so much that is the problem, but those of us who are so "thin skinned" that every time we are offended by someone whom has different beliefs than we do, that we scream out like spoiled children for the government to create more laws to protect our "fragile minds"?
And yet we wonder why things have become the way they are?
We have the most privileged young populace on the planet.
They just don't realize how good they have it in this country. Yes, there are poor people here, yes, there is a widening gap, but that widening gap between poor and wealth, I have heard it my entire life.
But overall, we have a young people so privileged they can go to college wherever they want, they can play sports and video games all they want, they can eat wherever they want, they can even drink when they come of age.
They don't have it so bad here, so it makes me wonder why they can't see what is going on elsewhere in the world.
Are youth have been conditioned by the same government that you addressed to allow those whom are not religious to leave the country?
All I can simply say is, what does your freedom mean to you, and think about that before you decide your freedom is more important than someone else!
Our fore fathers addressed this very well in the Constitution and to this day it amazes me how so many people "PRETEND" they actually knows what it means.......
originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: WarminIndy
"But overall, we have a young people so privileged they can go to college wherever they want, they can play sports and video games all they want, they can eat wherever they want, they can even drink when they come of age."
" They don't have it so bad here, so it makes me wonder why they can't see what is going on elsewhere in the world."
Your'e joking or clueless...you said the above, so why would they give a crap about the rest of the world? When they can do anything they want right here. Why?
You answered why.
And your thread is pointless because you're addressing a out-going president would wont do or care to do anything in a year. You asked the wrong person, at the wrong time.
And if you think people should have the right...where are you? They already have that choice. So your whole thread is a non-issue pleading to a out-going politician.
That friend...puts you at a point that isn't one...begging (p-lease!)..a 4-8 yr-term citizen who happens to currently be the prez.
PS On the plus side...you do have a flair for writing I think.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
I'm sure the President would love to alienate a large percentage of his Party's demographic by telling them he has diplomatically discussed their emigration with another Nation!
That's a real vote winner among constituents!