mystery ufo near ISS

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: free_spirit

a reply to: Arbitrageur



You said: "Rick Ray, if that's who runs the website you posted, doesn't claim any copyright."

You are wrong my friend or maybe went to another webpage. Here, the copyright statement

for the footage by Rick Ray. As I understand royalties go to him, what about NASA?

This is his site, DVarchive.com:

www.stockfootageonline.com...

See the contact info? Rick Ray.



www.dvarchive.com...

Note the Public Domain status, and the license fee.

About the Public Domain Copyright



DVarchive has taken reasonable steps to verify the copyright status of this work or clip and has determined that it is most likely in the public domain, and can be freely used and re-used in projects at your discretion. Even though this clip is believed to be created by the U.S. Government or by another party that has released it into the public domain, please note that DVarchive cannot absolutely guarantee the exact copyright status of the clip or offer written assurance that every or any aspect of this clip is completely cleared for all usages. Responsibility for making an independent legal assessment of a clip and securing any necessary permissions ultimately rests with persons desiring to use the clip.

Maybe NASA doesn't want their video used for advertising or promotional purposes, (I don't know, Jim Oberg do you know anything about that?). But he's obviously saying it's a public domain video, right? And it clearly shows the licensing fee is zero, right?

originally posted by: free_spirit

I checked other videos of the same STS-134 undocking and all of them show

the same circle at center so what is going to be: Animation or not?

I'm pretty sure it's not animation. Are you assuming they only have one camera, or that they can't move the camera around to photograph from different locations and in different directions? Are those valid assumptions?



If I'm reading this mission timeline right, looks like on day 15, STS-134 had 43 minutes scheduled for a fly-around of the ISS, from 15:27-16:10. That's enough time to shoot the actual footage we see, from different angles, right?



www.spaceflight101.com...



Here's the actual video shot during that 43 minutes, time lapsed down to 3m38s (the lake appears at 0:52), and it's less confusing than the video you posted earlier as it doesn't have the splice:



[STS-134] Flyaround of International Space Station in HD (Timelapse)

At 53 in the video I see it a big. . . . . ummm ice crystal? Lolz

This probably does belong in the HOAX bin, but is still a good example of how declassification actually works.
They obviously timed the video to coincide with the Russian dry lake bed fly over.
Probably something akin to the black Knight/mailbox UFO stories from the US area 51.

Laser emission in the wavelength region 14–18 μm has been observed in optically-pumped 15NH3 using the P26 line of a pulsed HF laser. Pressure and temperature dependence, as well as various optical configurations for the cell, were investigated. Each of the stronger laser lines was observed to have a pressure-dependent structure and several of the lines are apparently related through a cascade mechanism.

Very good detective work chaps well done.

It may be the Progress supply vehicle. a reply to: RoScoLaz4

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
At 53 in the video I see it a big. . . . . ummm ice crystal? Lolz

You mean lake Elton? That's at about 53 seconds in that video. A lot of space UFO videos do show little bits of ice, but what this OP story calls a "UFO" happens to be a lake.

a reply to: RoScoLaz4

Whatever that is appears to be on Earth, not in space.

Very impressive.

Just watched this on my mobile device.

You know it's a fantastic video when it's not just a glowing light somewhere in Space.

If it was manmade and part of some secret space program I'm sure they would do everything to not get this thing on camera EVER!!

People should really go through the thread before posting.

We know what this ufo is thanks to members figuring it out

a reply to: Arbitrageur

First of all Rick Ray claims a copyright in shutterstock page and also is
selling thie footage. This is A FACT. I provided the shutterstock link
with the information so please don't try to ignore this fact or distract
the issue with other things-. Yes Rick Ray may have another website
or many others but THE FACT here is that he is claiming a copyright
in the shutterstock page, stay in this point and let's try to find why
he is selling the video if it's public domain ok?

Regarding the original STS-134 footage of Endeavour undocking I also
provided an original video of the transmission showing the circle at
the center from the camera as a discrepancy. Now you are saying
a lot of arguments wich are irrelevant for instance: you say that
MAYBE and I repeat maybe there are other cameras from another
angle etc. You know at this level the argument MAYBE is not valid,
we need a fact based in a video of the original transmission STS-134
undocking the ISS without the circle at center showing a match with
the CBS and shutterstock footage, can you find it?

I'm still searching for this particular video to have that match but still
nothing, the only view I got is this one with the circle, can anybody
help here to find the desired video BUT IMPORTANT must be an original
transmission video not the same copy that I say it's an animation.

Regarding the timelapse video you found in Youtube I already had seen
it but it's the same sequence just a copy of the others in a timelapse
and it's not an evidence, there are even more copies of the same thing
the sequence I say animation until proven otherwise.

Why don't you help me to find the original sequence from STS-134 that
shows the ISS without the camera's circle at center to have the match.
Animation or Not?

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
People should really go through the thread before posting.

We know what this ufo is thanks to members figuring it out

Even if it's not what it appears to be. Who really cares at this point?

There is so much information (Including pics/videos) that indicates that something is going on up there.
The only thing that is missing is a 100 % proof of a legit intelligent Alien creature.

I don't think ancient civilizations hinted at UFO's in the sky for fun. These symbols and signs are here for a reason.

Another discrepancy from NASA. They posted this photo of the STS-134 Endeavour undocking
the ISS, photo they say taken by one of the astronauts. If you notice the ISS appears inverted
in comparison with the original footage. Did NASA made a mistake posting the photo but in
an inverted position? What do you think.


www.nasa.gov...

I found it, the original footage of the STS-134 fly around the ISS. It was in fact
the final views of the ISS during the Endeavour's fly around not the undocking.
For me it is satisfactory to accept this footage is not an animation but the real
thing. The Rick Ray issue remains aside but now irrelevant.

My thanks to members Arbitageur and Gortex for sustaining this footage is not
an animation that motivated me to continue searching for the truth and find
the answer. Here is the original footage, lake appears at 8:35.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Good point sir and one star..

My diagnosis would be a high altitude balloon - which defies physics in this case..

So I am going to go with an elaborate hoax by the media exaggerating claims - the shadow and light are on the wrong sides of the object from the source compared to all other objects (ISS) in the footage.

a reply to: free_spirit

Excellent work free_spirit , once again I salute you.

Yes, excellent work free_spirit, and great collaborative ATS work as well. An example on how it should always be.

a reply to: elevenaugust

Yes, excellent work free_spirit, and great collaborative ATS work as well.

Which is why I like this place so much , people like yourself and free_spirit who are prepared to keep digging to get to the truth of a mystery.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: elevenaugust

Yes, excellent work free_spirit, and great collaborative ATS work as well.

Which is why I like this place so much , people like yourself and free_spirit who are prepared to keep digging to get to the truth of a mystery.

Now that y'all have that little victory. Could some please explain where the "Tranquility" module is in those images?
It seems to be missing and yet was installed in Feb. 2010...more than a year before STS134...

a reply to: tanka418
You get a great view of it at about 3 minutes into the time lapse video I posted on page 8, on the port side just aft of center.
It doesn't show up too well in the shorter clips because the truss is in front of it from that angle.

upload.wikimedia.org...

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Yes, capture at 4:18 (from free_spirit video)