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Evidence of American mercenaries fighting in the Ukraine ?

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posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: kloejen

Look at RT trying to spin events. They're trying to get people to focus on the fact that there are English speaking soldiers among Ukraine's ranks.


RT is making the most of this because it was manufactured.

Anyone with even the most basic understanding of audio can tell that this was dubbed after the fact. The man's voice is a completely different audio level to the voices of EVERY other person in that video. No other person heard in that video sounds as crisp and clear as that man's voice, even though they are speaking into that microphone with less obstruction and directly head on.

Anyone who thinks this video was not doctored to add that voice after the fact is, frankly, an idiot.




posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

To me it sounded more like Scandinavian.
And also could fit with this news
www.kyivpost.com...

Leo Sjöholm, a 31-year-old Swedish volunteer with the Azov Battalion, was killed in a car accident near the city of Berdyansk in Zaporizhya Oblast while on military duty on Jan 8



posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: kloejen




lol, so Putin IS a western puppet ?? OMG RUN!


The point I was making is just because someone speaks English they don't have to be from America.

Now that would be a true conspiracy.



posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: kloejen

Look at RT trying to spin events. They're trying to get people to focus on the fact that there are English speaking soldiers among Ukraine's ranks. At the same time they just glaze over the fact that 30 civilians were killed by a rocket most likely fired by the separatists.

Funny how just a few days ago when a shell most likely launched by the government forces killed civilians RT made sure we knew all about it including giving us video of the parties responsible.


And just 2 days ago "US Media listed RT as a challenge along with ISIS and Boko Haram."

Whether you agree with RT or not, it is “not acceptable” to equate the channel with terror groups, prominent Bahraini activist Nabeel Rajab said, referring to a statement by Andrew Lack, who has listed RT as a challenge along with ISIS and Boko Haram.

“I was really shocked to hear that,” Rajab told RT, while speaking about the statement that the newly-appointed chief of US Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), Andrew Lack, made on Wednesday.


Lack mentioned RT in an interview with The New York Times. “We are facing a number of challenges from entities like Russia Today which is out there pushing a point of view, the Islamic State in the Middle East and groups like Boko Haram,” he said. “But I firmly believe that this agency has a role to play in facing those challenges.”

Everyone has the right to criticize “but after all we have to respect the people’s right to freedom of expression,” said Rajab. “Russia Today is a respected organization” whether you agree with all RT says or not, he added.

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Of course, such spin could never happen in western media!

So the fingerpointing game is on...
edit on 25/1/2015 by kloejen because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: Hithe Merinos
a reply to: kloejen

To me it sounded more like Scandinavian.
And also could fit with this news
www.kyivpost.com...

Leo Sjöholm, a 31-year-old Swedish volunteer with the Azov Battalion, was killed in a car accident near the city of Berdyansk in Zaporizhya Oblast while on military duty on Jan 8




It sure could be a Scandinavian too, yeah. Even French, British, German .. ?
The hippocracy here is that, if some folks wants to go and fight for ISIS, Europe will totally forbid it, and will prosecute them upon return.
But if you travel to Ukraine and fight against the pro-russian separatists, then it is ok ? Where is the logic here?
Pretty sure there is some international agreements on this subject.
edit on 25/1/2015 by kloejen because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

Really? You can't see the difference between Ukraine and ISIS? IS has essentially professed itself to be an enemy of the West. They're ultimate goal is to unite a region if not the whole world under a regime that is completely at odds with Western ideas. Anybody that joins it is saying they are an enemy of the West. And that's not even mentioning the outright acts of barbarism committed by them.

Ukraine on the other hand is a limited theater. The only outcome of the civil war will either be a united Ukraine or a divided Ukraine. It doesn't affect the home nation of any foreign national that may choose to fight there. As a result the people fighting in Ukraine are not committing what is for all intents and purposes treason.



posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 01:55 AM
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www.liveleak.com...
Audio
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00:25
for what it's worth.
edit on 26-1-2015 by all2human because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 02:05 AM
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Armed people in uniform speaking fluent English with no accent, were spotted working alongside Ukrainian troops in the aftermath of the rocket attacks in Mariupol.

Foreign private military contractors are suspected.



Military-clad English-speakers caught on camera in Mariupol shelling aftermath



posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 02:39 AM
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a reply to: nOraKat

Maybe they are there on vacation.



posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 07:23 PM
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Or NATO foreign legion..
Maybe 20% of the population of Ukraine (ethnic Russian) are just on vacation too.



posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Rocker2013

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: kloejen

Look at RT trying to spin events. They're trying to get people to focus on the fact that there are English speaking soldiers among Ukraine's ranks.


RT is making the most of this because it was manufactured.

Anyone with even the most basic understanding of audio can tell that this was dubbed after the fact. The man's voice is a completely different audio level to the voices of EVERY other person in that video. No other person heard in that video sounds as crisp and clear as that man's voice, even though they are speaking into that microphone with less obstruction and directly head on.

Anyone who thinks this video was not doctored to add that voice after the fact is, frankly, an idiot.


Nothing manufactured about it. This is just some idiot guy from the UK playing at being a mercenary. He has been identified as Leon Swampy from the UK. He made no effort to hide his involvement as a volunteer / mercenary on the Ukrainian side and features on social media. Both sides have volunteers and mercenaries from various nations and nothing remarkable in that whatsoever.

thedailyledeblog.wordpress.com...



posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 09:58 PM
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I saw a vid some time ago of American and or Nato forces running from a close call as a shell went flying over thier heads.

It was clear they were from America, cant seem to find the vid now though.

Of course we have our forces there. . . . .



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Of course you cant find the video.. Its much easier to make the claim, reference the video, and hope people will just believe you are telling the truth.

Specifically - Why don you go ahead and describe for everyone here what a NATO uniform looks like, since you are stating NATO forces are running around.

Here is a clue - NATO has no uniform.

So how do you identify them as NATO forces?


edit on 27-1-2015 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:12 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: FormOfTheLord



Of course you cant find the video.. Its much easier to make the claim, reference the video, and hope people will just believe you are telling the truth.



Specifically - Why don you go ahead and describe for everyone here what a NATO uniform looks like, since you are stating NATO forces are running around.



Here is a clue - NATO has no uniform.



So how do you identify them as NATO forces?





Lol they were what appeared to be Americans on the run getting shot at, and a shell went over thier heads and was caught on camera, I saw it on liveleak but couldnt find it on youtube.

I havent looked too much, it may still be on liveleak for all I know. . .

Maybe someone else knows what im talking about, it was a classic case of OMG WTF in a warzone.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

You made the claim so maybe you should support it by linking to the source / video. I am just getting tired of people making claims with absolutely nothing to support it. It seems to be a trend lately.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:41 AM
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Ukraine war pulls in foreign fighters

Does Ukraine need mercenaries in its army

It should really be no surprise to anyone mercenaries are fighting in Ukraine, be it American, British, French, Spanish, Swedish their are mercenaries from all over the world fighting for any number of reasons in Ukraine right now. This will be a very lucrative time for weapons dealers and mercenaries, if you are willing to fight alongside neo-nazis of course.

Something that further compounds the issue is the fact Ukraine seems to allow for the creation of volunteer paramilitary brigades. Christ knows how that gets regulated.

Territorial defense battalions



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:43 AM
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This war needs to stop period.

Nothing good comes from war only death and destruction.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:59 AM
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a reply to: Dabrazzo

I think NATO needs to just get it over with and support Kiev. Since there are no Russians in Ukraine it should not be that big of an issue for Russia.



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 01:42 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

It already does.

So you think US and other Western soldiers should go in and fight ?

Why aren`t you there letting yourself get hired and fight than ?



posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:00 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Xcathdra



It already does.



So you think US and other Western soldiers should go in and fight ?



Why aren`t you there letting yourself get hired and fight than ?



I agree those who stroke the flames of war need to get out there and go to war themselves.

Its called keyboard warrior syndrome, some just talk while others just act.

Its a no brainer which is superior to the other.




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