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originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: EternalSolace
Human rights supersede religious rights.
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
This is an interesting twist and I must say, I saw it coming. A Christian man has asked a Colorado baker (who is known to be LGBT-friendly) to decorate a cake with an anti-gay slogan, and the baker is refusing. Therefore, the Christian is complaining, claiming his religious rights are being violated.
He must have not read his bible, as he missed
A new commandment I give to you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
If I own my labor I should be allowed to make the choice to sell my labor to whomever I want.
That's the Libertarian stance, and I have a certain amount of fondness for it. But you have to consider what the implications of that stance might be. We'd have restaurants where black people are not welcome. Separate drinking fountains for straights and gays. Women disallowed from entering the Home Depo. Grocery stores refusing to sell to Christians.
People's prejudices would be supported by the state.
Hatred of those who are different would be socially acceptable.
You have your idea of how it SHOULD be, but it isn't like that. Businesses are regulated by the state, federal and local laws. That's how we have clean restaurants and can return faulty merchandise, etc. The consumer must be protected from being screwed by businesses.
In a perfect world, your stance would be great. But there are too many greedy people out there who would take advantage of the consumer.
Conservative Christian Theodore Shoebat says he asked for 'an explicitly anti-homosexual marriage cake' and couldn't get one.
Antigay activist Theodore Shoebat has conducted an experiment in cake-shopping that he claims proves "how militant and intolerant the homosexual agenda is."
Shoebat, the son of fellow right-wing Christian extremist Walid Shoebat, writes at Shoebat.com that he “called some 13 prominent bakers who are pro-gay and requested that they make a pro-traditional marriage cake with the words ‘Gay marriage is wrong’ placed on the cake. Each one denied us service, and even used deviant insults and obscenities against us. One baker even said that she would make me a cookie with a large phallus on it. We recorded all of this in a video that will stun the American people as to how militant and intolerant the homosexual agenda is.” www.advocate.com...
He cited several examples of protections, from the baker who doesn't want to provide a wedding cake to same-sex marriage couple to the Jewish mother who doesn't want an autopsy on her son who died in a car crash. Both cited religious beliefs as reasons in their cases.
"This is not a license to discriminate," Bolger said. "People simply want their government to allow them to practice their faith in peace."