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originally posted by: cuckooold
Rome: The Pope has weighed in to the debate over freedom of expression in the wake of the Paris attacks, saying that anyone who insults a religion can expect "a punch on the nose".
In provocative remarks that may cause consternation in France, Pope Francis said that freedom of expression had its limits.
I've not got a lot of time for religious leaders, but he seems less horrible than most. Still, he holds a lot of power over a large amount of people, and I worry that his comments may be taken as encouragement by the 'jihadists', as well as some sort of tacit 'allowability' or 'green light' for members of his own 'tribe' to take certain matters into their own hands.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: combatmaster
My oh my.... Wasn't Jesus all about forgive n forget?
He is not Jesus...he is a man last time I looked, so he can punch all he wants.
To put his words into something people here might understand better...
If you feel the need to talk SH*T then don't be surprise if you get you A$$ kicked...understand now?
originally posted by: NiZZiM
a reply to: cuckooold
I really don't see how he's out of line. If you insult someone you have a chance to be punished for it. I'm not saying and he's not saying that it's ok to kill, but that you should be ready for consequences. You see those crazy Christians picketing funerals and they've been beat down before too. If someone insulted my mom I'd retaliate also. Just not as violent as murdering people. These guys took it way too far. They should've done something else to communicate their anger, but yes they did have a reason to be mad. Free speach pisses people off all the time.
The name of their website reflects this. Their antics are denounced across almost all spectra of political and religious thought. Their hatred, and seeking of publicity, goes beyond homosexuality. They also protested the Pope's visit, calling him the anti-Christ.
Fred Phelps graduated from Washburn University School of Law in Topeka in 1962 and designed his church/family as a giant law firm used to sue those angry enough to retaliate against the "church" or to bar its offensive activities from their communities. Eleven of Phelps' thirteen children are lawyers. All five of the attorneys for the Phelps Chartered Law Firm, which Fred Phelps founded in 1964, are his children.
"'They scrupulously obeyed the ordinance' that kept them and their 'God hates fags' and 'America is doomed' signs away from the funeral of Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, said Mark Potok, who directs Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project. 'They're good at this,' Potok said, noting that the family has successfully sued many communities for monetary damages after they tried to restrict the family's constitutionally protected protests. 'They understand the First Amendment very, very well. They are not stupid people. They are vile people.'"
-Andrea Stone, AOL News
"'They have a very well-respected law firm in Topeka,' Sherman says. 'People in town said, Well, we don't like them, but if we want to win a case, we'll go to them.' Church spokeswoman Phelps-Roper says their booming employment and family law practice pays the bills for their travels across the country, when they shout their anti-gay message. They travel in vans to keep down the costs, which she says can add up to $200,000 a year... The protests are in themselves a source of some income, according to Potok. Over the years the Phelpses have filed lawsuits against communities that try to stop them from demonstrating. 'And as a general matter they have won,' he says. 'They know their First Amendment rights very well, and they've been very good at defending them.' When they win, they often receive tens of thousands of dollars in court fees. And their winning streak is likely to continue, now that the Supreme Court has decided that Westboro's right to free speech trumps the right of families to bury their loved ones undisturbed."
-Barbara Bradley Hagerty, NPR
Phelps has strongly supported Fidel Castro and Saddam Hussein in the past. Hussein allowed a group of Westboro delegates to visit Iraq to protest against the U.S.
WBC pickets approximately six locations every day, including many in Topeka and some events farther afield. On Sundays, up to 15 churches may receive pickets. By their own count, WBC has picketed in all 50 U.S. states.