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The Terrorists Weapon of Mass Destruction YOU Are Touching RIGHT NOW

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posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: Brotherman



Or do you mean credentialed as in I went to school got my degree


No, I totally mean in the "Your Papers, Please!" sense of the term 'credentials'. Like the simple ones that you use to access ATS, only hairier.

You'll have your public-facing credentials on a certified server somewhere so that you can buy and sell.





posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

RGR that kind of like how they are marketing the iPhone on tv commercials along with some bank as being able to use your phone as a credit card/ debit card? I know it is not exactly like that but the idea that your cloud device (with all of your info at least the most vital of info) is used in such ways. I know you are not just talking about paying, I am only using that as an example because I think that this could be used as the lube before you know what happens. Getting people used to the idea that this is how it is going to be type of thing???

Also if this is what is going to happen what is being done to stop it?
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posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

You are very much on target with the PC thing. There have been a LOT of tech articles lately about how the PC will become a business niche product very soon and that, with the lower demand, will go back to being priced far too high for most consumers to own.

Even laptops are considered obsolete or nearly so.

Tablets and smartphones are the way of the future. The ones that aren't already RFID chipped will become RFID chipped and your login ability will require an account - one issues after a background check and credit card verification.

Many people will end up with 14.4 type home Internet that they can only use for very basic things - the bread for the masses.



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

I think it finally just dawned on me, I can be a little slow at times and sometimes have to re read and then read outloud to myself to grasp something. When you said you cannot purchase a full auto ak-47 because that is what terrorists use you are also saying I cannot purchase in the future full and free access to the internet because this is what terrorists use? Am I understanding this correctly?



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Brotherman

Exactly. The free Internet will end up being seen to be as dangerous as a weapon.



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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Also if this is what is going to happen what is being done to stop it?


Nothing, it's being encouraged and it's developing very rapidly. I personally would like to work on the systems that are helping it to become so.

This has been in development for a really long time, you can see it in the evolution of the PC. We started with giant mainframes supporting users at terminals. Then users had "workstations" (big powerful desktops with screaming graphics cards that sounded like 747s). Then the casual users had big powerful beasts that rivalled even the mainframes.

Now you can hold a workstation in your hand (hold on: okay, just checked my mail on a 7" cloud device with a quad-core processor. That's right; it's the culmination of 20 years of progress: a tiny, bloated little Windows workstation you can hold in your hand). And now we are returning to the old model: everyone will have a thin-client (terminal) connected to the cloud (mainframe).

And when it's done? The bad-guys will light up like Christmas.


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posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

No matter how illegal they make it then there is going to be some kind of retaliation, I would imagine such response from the tech/hacker/ freedom loving people with the means would then be used as evidence to even tighten the grip on the people then?

This really is quite intriguing, I have read alot of your other threads at least 3 others I can think of on the topic of the dangers of the web net neutrality etc. I can't say that I ever really thought about it like this. My understanding is though is that countries and groups that cannot beat a standing army use the net to fight back against their enemies because it is their enemies vulnerability, (trying not to be flamed here just an example that may or may not be true). What happens when this comes to pass if it does? People will rebel in ways I couldn't imagine as I don't really know what people are and will be capable of now or in the near future? It sounds and seems like an even scarier world in regards to willfully taking it ass up so you can collect your scraps of a pay check or you don't and become a criminal that again barely survives on scraps of an illegal pay check type of deal. It sounds like a no win situation for not only the little guy but the whole world, how the hell does this work and everyone goes along with it?



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

I'm not sure I want to be a part of a world that willingly wants to control me like that. I loved the xbox right, I then had to draw the line at new consoles because of digital games, they controlled what I had payed for too much that I wanted out as I forsaw in the future when games don't get played much and are not popular anymore they cut the server even though I already payed for the game now it is worthless, take a new game called titanfall, it is online only and they sold lots of digital downloads, what happens when they figure that it is a drain on their resources and cut the server to that game? The consumer cannot play it anymore. If I am understanding this correctly something similar is going on with what Heff is saying with the whole internet? If true again, I am not sure I want the credentials to be a part of that unless they are illegal and anonymous



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:44 PM
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Many people will end up with 14.4 type home Internet that they can only use for very basic things - the bread for the masses.


I know that it seems that way, but it seems to me that the opportunity for any user to have full control of their "cyber-life" is always held out for the taking. The Open-Source stuff can make a user very powerful.

I think it just comes down to how much a person wants to take on. I also think that what is being 'taken-on' (in terms of education, skill and responsibility) will become better articulated so that citizens can safely pay to have it done for them, probably by government bonded agents (American business-people).

As far as "They" being all up in my stuff?

This is going to sound all dramatic but, for 5000 years we have all gone to the city seeking something. These days I think that collectively what we seek is justice, but whatever it is, we come to cities to work it all out.

It's Their city, I just live in it.


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posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:47 PM
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I have nothing to hide from the powers that be. I could encrypt this machine to the point where they'd never get info out of it. But I don't encrypt it at all.

What I am afraid of is the limited stream of information. The smaller the stream ( source ) the more controlled it can become. Right up to the point where we no longer have any means of fact checking.



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 06:55 PM
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This OP scares the poop out of me, the way I am looking at it one day a long time ago a guy shows up at my house when I was a kid, he asked if I liked books right. Of course I liked books, he asked to come in and started showing me all these cool ass encyclopedia britannicas of course my mom was there and she saw I liked them, it wasn't even just the encyclopedias they also had this thing called the wildlife fact file which was this big binder that I could subscribe to and everymonth they would mail me these file cards that fit inside this monstorous trapper keeper. My mom asked how much this dude told her a few hundred bucks, she told him I don't need it, I had the encarta on my mac, which came with the mac that cost tons of money to get in the late 90s. The point is, is that online it may be possible I will have to pay all of that for the information I want when before I had the power to already access it for free, and the idea of going to the library wont help cause I have to be credentialed so I will have to pay for it there to cause I am already paying for credentials? The hell with that, I better get to printing things I like to read now before I have to pay for that stuff twice over and possibly be ridiculed over it, especially if I want to read Kurt Saxons Grandfathers wonderful book of chemistry



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 07:16 PM
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What I am afraid of is the limited stream of information. The smaller the stream ( source ) the more controlled it can become. Right up to the point where we no longer have any means of fact checking.


Well, did you see that Adam Curtis vid that Korg Trinity posted?

Putin's right-hand man seems to use a firehose rather than a stream. But I hear you, it's not like what you are suggesting hasn't been the intuitive go-to technique for folks (like Korea or Egypt).

I don't know Hef, I suppose I would have to give it some thought. I mean, it makes me think of WikiPedia, it has problems with facts because of accessibility not the other way around.

I think the main thing is that people realize that their emotions can be targeted by technology, so that they take a step back and pause before reacting to stuff they see on the web.

BRB




posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 07:23 PM
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It'll be okay, you'll have the same access to all the same stuff.

It'll probably be some sort of "bundle", Credentialling, Cloud Services and Applications, something like that. Probably won't cost any more than any of us are already paying for phone and data and all that.

Plus, we are all already doing it with our most sensitive information anyway, only when this is all set up you won't have to worry about your account getting hacked anymore.

It's happened to me twice, once at a restaurant and once online.




posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 07:23 PM
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So people are going to be afraid that I'm a terrorist (and other normal people like me) and therefore shouldn't be allowed internet access. Typical.

I'm sure a lot of people in power have wanted the internet gone for a long time, because it exposes truth.
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posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: Hefficide
You know, terrorism.

Are you there yet? Are you seeing the picture? Your keyboard and an AK-47 being seen as equal in the eyes of a programmed population? The Intenet being put under direct and strict control, globally, because it is a weapon of mass destruction - a tool of terrorism?
...(snip)...
Here is an RSS feed that just gives you a taste of what is happening and at the pace with which it is happening.
...(snip)...
Welcome to INGSOC folks. We are there and it is happening even as you read these words on your terrorist device through terrorist networks.

Thanks for reading.


Yea, the keyboard is our AK-47? Just when Putin claiming the internet to be a "CIA project"


Vladimir Putin gave his clearest signal yet that he aims to break up the global nature of the internet when he branded the network a "CIA project" on Thursday.

The Russian president told a media conference in St Petersburg that America's overseas espionage agency had originally set up the internet and was continuing to develop it.

Putin has long hinted that he wants a Russian-run alternative. The idea of breaking up the internet has gained ground in Germany, Brazil and elsewhere round the world in the light of the revelations by whistleblower Edward Snowden about the extent to which the US National Security Agency has infiltrated Facebook, Skype and other social media.

Snowden's critics say that an unintended consequences of his revelations has been to undermine the global nature of the web as well as playing into the hands of dictators. His supporters counter that it is the NSA rather than Snowden that has damaged trust in the service.

Full story

Was Putin right about the internet being a "CIA project"

The internet is sometimes considered, "A Child of the Cold War" or "The Cold War's Baby."

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The Internet got its start in the United States more than 50 years ago as a government weapon in the Cold War



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 08:59 PM
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Welcome to the Information Age and hi-tech explosion. All the concerns expressed here are totally legit and reasonable. I think this century is going to be a turning point, or crossroads, for humanity. And depending on the road we take, the decisions we make (as a species), will determine our fate.

I think the “tech” you’re referring to, Hefficide, is basic IP networking technology. The internet is a massive, globally distributed network comprised of many interconnected autonomous networks. In my mind, the many countries (autonomous networks) around the world each represent local network administrators. They pretty much control access/share levels and administrative functions for their local group. If North Korea, for example, chooses to maintain tight security over it’s node and strictly limit access to global resources it may do so. A difference between the internet and a typical corporate network, though, is there is no Master Domain controller with centralized governance over the entire network. Instead, there are many international entities excersizing control over specific functions/aspects of it. These entities include individuals, corporations, organizations, governments, universities, etc. The list is long, and I don’t want to list it. Now, governments do carry a big stick and can greatly influence various administrative functions of the internet, but even governments have to jump through a lot of hoops to implement significant changes. Anything significant would likely have to pass the scrutiny of the United Nations sponsored Internet Governance Forum (IGF), which is represented by various countries and presides over policy issues. Since the internet pervades almost every aspect of our society and it’s institutions, and we’ve become so dependent upon it, I would think it would behoove TPTB to ensure it’s openness and not prohibitively restrict it’s access.

I recently read something by Ray Kurzweil (futurist and currently Google’s chief engineer) about augmented intelligence. He believes that in the near future we will be able to significantly increase our intelligence. It will be possible via a small device/chip that will continuously and naturally interact with our brain and provide instant access to any kind of information we wish from the internet. Our brains would be connected to the "cloud". He claims that it will feel totally natural and be effortless. Apparently thought alone will initiate a lookup on any subject - somehow our thoughts will initiate a keyword search (kinda like a Google search). He was very serious about this, and apparently Google is actually working on it. Now, that could be a little scary on a number of fronts.

IMO, the kind of stuff being debated here today is just the tip of the iceberg. The internet is just one of a number of technologies currently advancing at a rate so fast that we are now on the verge of a major reckoning on just what it means to be human. In this century humanity will be faced with a paradigm shift that will redefine the human condition. Current technologies that are exploding include computer science, information management, artificial intelligence, genetics, robotics, neuroscience, materials science, brainwave research, various branches of biology, etc. It’s now considered a conservative projection that by the year 2045 machine intelligence will match human intelligence. Beyond that it goes quickly off the scale as machines grow smarter than us at an exponential rate. By the turn of the century the human condition is anyone’s guess.

This will likely not happen without a certain amount of resistance. This thread today is just the beginning. Most folks are just beginning to become aware of this now, and for the most part haven’t yet thought through the ramifications. But this should begin to change soon as the picture becomes clearer. Many (probably most) people will not be too keen on the idea of giving up any part of their humanity and being subjugated to a machine with 10,000 times their intelligence. There will be heated debate and violent protest as political, religious, social and philosophical issues are fought over. There are so many scenarios it’s hard to predict how it will all end.

It’s hard to put a time-frame on all this, but from much of what I’ve read the next 100 years should be quite eventful. In any case, humanity is quickly approaching a crossroads, and there will be critical decisions to be made. The stakes couldn’t be higher, and depending on the choices we make, it could very well determine the fate of mankind. The next branch off the evolutionary tree will begin with human/machine hybrids possessing augmented intelligence. It could be that one day these hybrids will view us much like we view the great apes. And at this stage, I’m not sure we can do a damned thing about it...

PS: This is not doom porn. Personally, I’m not sure if it’s a good or bad thing. I guess it all depends on what we make it. Who knows, a world of magic may lie not far ahead.

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posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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That link to the RSS feed is a malicious website according to my Malwarebytes.



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

That's one Hell of a NWO project !!!




posted on Jan, 17 2015 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: ChiefD

False positive.




posted on Jan, 17 2015 @ 06:21 AM
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Children Of Tomorrow

Children of tomorrow
I apologize to you
On behalf of those in my time
For the things we didn't do
We didn't stop the tyrants
So your fate could be prevented
We watched them steal our freedom
By our silence we consented
We didn't choose to circumvent
The doom you've not escaped
While the Bill of Rights was murdered
And the Constitution raped
Some of us were lazy
Others too afraid
To think about our children
The ones we have betrayed
I guess we were too busy
To be concerned or care
To try to ease the burden
Of the chains we made you wear
We could have been good shepherds
When the wolf got in the fold
But we watched the flame of freedom die instead
And left you cold

I'm sorry we were timid
My selfish generation
We left you but a remnant
Of a free and prosperous nation
I'm sorry for our actions
Like cowards we behaved
We could have left you freedom
Instead you are enslaved
Children of tomorrow
Descendants of our land
I'm sorry we allowed this
The fate you now with stand

- Anonymous




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