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reply posted on 30-8-2002 @ 04:41 PM by volksFolk
Here's the article. I translated it from French to English so the English version is a bit difficult to read. The article is from the French paper, Le Figaro. www.lefigaro.fr...

Sick Gravement, the public enemy number one stayed to the American hospital of the Èmirat at first of the summer July 2001: Ben Laden meets the CIA to DubaÔ

Attains of a kidney disease, Oussama ben Laden stayed of the 4 to July 14 last one to the American hospital of DubaÔ, where it would have met a responsible one CIA, according to a witness, professional partner of the administrative direction of the hospital.

In origin of the airport of Quetta, to the Pakistan, the one that became since the attempts of September 11 the public enemy number one immediately was transferred as early as his arrival to the airport of DubaÔ. It was accompanied of his personal and faithful doctor lieutenant that could be the egyptien Ayman al-zawahari, of four guards of the body, as well as of an Algerian nurse.

In March 2000 already, the weekly Asia Week, published to Hongkong, worried about the health of Ben Laden, mentioning a serious physical problem specifying that its days were in danger to causes of a ´ kidney infection that propagates itself to the liver and necessitates specialized cares ª. According to authorized sources, Ben Laden would have done to deliver itself, during the course of the first part of the year 2000, a movable equipment of dialysis in his Afghan den of Kandahar.

The sanitary movement to DubaÔ did not be the first one, follow our sources. Between 1996 and 1998, Oussama ben Laden itself there had returned several times for its matters. During his hospitalisation, in July, it receives the visit of the local representative of the CIA. This one will be recalled to Washington July 15, to the day following the departure of Ben Laden for Quetta.

Fifteen days later, the customs Èmiratis stop to the airport of DubaÔ an Islamist Algerian French activist, Djamel Beghal. French and American authorities are warned. Questioned to Abu Dhabi, Beghal relates that it was summoned in Afghanistan at the end of 2000 by Abou Zoubeida a military responsible organization of Ben Laden Al Qaida. The mission of Beghal: to do to jump the embassy of the United States to Paris.

According to Arabic diplomatic sources and the services of French pieces of information, very precise informations were communicated to the CIA concerning terrorist attacks aiming the American interests in the world. A report of the DST of September 7 musters these data specifying that the order to act had to come from Afghanistan.

In August, to the embassy of the United States to Paris, an urgency meeting is summoned with the DGSE and the more high representatives of the American services. Extremely worried, the latter present to their French counterparts of the request very precise pieces of information concerning Algerian activists, without nevertheless to explain on the general direction of their gait. To the question ´ that do you fear in the days that come? ª, The Americans oppose a with difficulty understandable mutisme.


reply posted on 4-9-2002 @ 06:39 PM by SethUK
Originally posted by Ezekiel
Osama Bin Laden as probably just a scapegoat/fall guy for [insert gov. agency here] who masterminded the whole attacks and allowed it to happen.

It gives America good reason to attack the Middle East (mainly Iraq) and carry out whatever agenda they have there.


When the 9/11 attacks occurred something didn't sit right with me, and I said then that the original idea for the attacks grew within america's leaders. A year on, I'm more convinced than ever, the hijackers had to of recieved a high level of military training, to be able to control large groups of people.

Ok so Al-Queda has it's training camps, which were all based on training provided by America when they were trying to overthrow the original rulers/links to Russia. OBL was a bed fellow then receiving payment and weapons for his attacks on groups considered hostile by Americas leaders.

It's here that I'm going to inject a worrying thought, what if Osama was never taken off Americas payroll? I've seen evidence that America has had plans for a hostile takeover of Afganistan for ages, but what they've never had is a reason to do so (well apart from that huge supply of oil).

If Osama was never taken off Americas operatives payroll, you suddenly have a situation where an unscuplous group [un-named agency] could take advantage of this, using relatively minor attacks on US targets Osama mangaes to make the FBI top 10 most wanted list, it takes several years, but his slow rise to infamy just makes him look like a small time crook with minor backing, meanwhile back over in the US the [un-named agency] looks at ways of causing international outrage, what better way than casuing mass damage to one of America's most recognisable features?

So we have a ground covering for a possible conspiracy here, lets see what else we can throw into the pot... The video footage of bin ladens claims of structural knowledge of the towers leading to his conclussion that the towers would fall, strange how that video appeared just after the recovery teams were drawing conclussions to why the towers crumpled, something that had never really occured to any of the designers (well not with something as large as the jets that hit).

I could go on for longer on little bits like this but I'm going to summarise here:-
facts


  • OBL used to oust old leaders/russia


    • OBL and collegues received military training

    • OBL also received weapons and monetary support from US

    • Attacks happen, instant world outcry, USA could nuke afganistan and the globe would only of blinked because of the bright flash

    • US move into Afganistan, start the process of introducing a more western thinking leadership

    • OBL "makes" claims he new how much damage the attacks would make, gloats about it, US citizens take this as insult and want blood allowing the US to march on

    • Amazingly OBL makes it out of his Cave network and through all American/British armed forces hunting him




My opinion

  • Bin laden never taken of US payroll


    • An un-named agency new they could find a use for him.



    • OBL slowly raised his international profile with attacks on US targets, and loudly proclaiming his hatred of the US

    • [un-named agency] decides that a terror strike would be best, one that caused some death but was more symbollic. Allows fro retribution and access to afganistan

    • Plans laid, OBL speaks out even louder, attacks the olympics

    • Agency decides that going on the data that was available about the twin towers at the time suggested that they would withstand a plane crashing into them

    • Paper trails start getting laid

    • Agency wants more public outcry about attacks, gets OBL to make claims of sturatual knowledge for demolishing towers

    • Agency sees the beifits of keeping OBL at large gets armed forces to allow him to escape his cave prison

    • OBL disappears, to reappear where?, my money is if Bush and Blair can't get enough support for an attack on Iraq over the weapons of mass detruction route which they are going, and failing on, OBL will appear in Iraq and harbouring the worlds most dangerous man will be enough to allow US forces to move into Iraq another rich depositary of oil and somewhere the US has had it's eyes on for ages..

    • Saddam gets booted out/killed and a western friendly ruler placed their

    • Oh yeah OBL again escapes, to run wild until another area needs "dealing" with


    • Sorry for rambling but I hope there's some food for thought there.
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