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House Republicans attack Social Security on day one

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:38 PM
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I WROTE AN OP ABOUT WHAT THE GOP WOULD DO TO THE ORDINARY Americans once they got in power but for some strange reason it seems to have been deleted. I wonder why?

My warning has come true. I knew it would.





An attack by the Republican Party on the nation's Social Security program took less than one full working day. Included in a new set of rules passed by the House of Representatives on Tuesday was a new measure making it more difficult to move funds between separate accounts maintained by the Social Security Administration. A seemingly technical provision on the surface, critics says it puts millions of disabled and elderly Americans at risk and sets the stage for further attacks aimed at the wider program.
www.commondreams.org...

"The GOP is inventing a Social Security crisis that will threaten benefits for millions and put our most vulnerable at risk." —Sen. Elizabeth Warren



What's a bigger priority for Republicans to attack even than Obamacare? Social Security. They proved it Tuesday when they included a new rule in their rules package governing the 114th Congress that will prevent it from authorizing what has been routine reallocations of funds between the two Social Security programs, the retirement fund and the disability program. Reallocating funds between the programs has been entirely non-controversial and routine—Congress has done it 11 times, from and to both programs when one needs shoring up. But now House Republicans want to end that, presumably with the aim of forcing a crisis in 2016, when Social Security trustees say the disability program will run short.




Republicans are continuing their game of trying to pit seniors against disabled people, telling retirees that their own benefits are threatened by the disability program and giving them more political room to start chipping away at Social Security as a whole. Now they're trying to force that to happen before the next election.

www.dailykos.com...#

I'll continue in the future to do " I TOLD YOU SO OP'S" when the GOP does what we all know they will do.

Such as put an anti-science climate denier Ted Cruz at the Helm of the Subcommittee that overseas NASA and science!



So, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) was just named to be the chairman of the Subcommittee on Space, Science, and Competitiveness as Republicans take over the Senate. This subcommittee (which used to be just Space and Science but was recently renamed) is in charge of oversight of, among other things, NASA.
www.slate.com...[edit by]edit on 13-1-2015 by Willtell because: (no reason given)




posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:41 PM
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Can you at least try to explain, in your own words, how this evil scheme is attacking Social Security?



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: Jamie1
Can you at least try to explain, in your own words, how this evil scheme is attacking Social Security?



It speaks for itself but if you want me to explain it to you fine, Ill try.

The GOP will do anything to cut SS because they want to really gut it.

Like they gut the postal services by making them pay for their retirement 75 years in the future.

Here they want to, as the commentators spoke, separate the SS recipients from the SS recipients that receive disability, and cause division, confusion with the eventual hope of derailing the whole program.

This sneaky bill will likely cause a disability shortfall soon and then they will try to sneak in a cut.

They know if they try to do it directly they’ll likely be voted out of office

Even though the brain-dead populace who voted them in in the first place may stay to sleep.

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Jamie1
Can you at least try to explain, in your own words, how this evil scheme is attacking Social Security?



It speaks for itself but if you want me to explain it to you fine, Ill try.

The GOP will do anything to cut SS because they want to really gut it.

Like they gut the postal services by making them pay for their retirement 75 years in the future.

Here they want to, as the commentators spoke, separate the SS recipients from the SS recipients that receive disability, and cause division, confusion with the eventual hope of derailing the whole program.

This sneaky bill will likely cause a disability shortfall soon and then they will try to sneak in a cut.

They know if they try to do it directly they’ll likely be voted out of office

Even though the brain-dead populace who voted them in in the first place may stay to sleep.


95% of your post was a rant.

I read the article.

It's an accounting change that actually tightens up the loose accounting practices that would allow for mishandling the benefit fund.

Why do you see that as an attack on Social Security?


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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

In fact, the new rule prevents the Social Security funds being allocated to bail out the disability fund:

"By putting this rule into effect, we are sending a clear indication that we're not just going to allow the raid of retirement Social Security to be used to bail out the disability trust fund," Reed said. "We need real reform. This makes that real reform that much more likely."

Do you have any idea what you're talking about, or are you just parroting the "Republican's are bad" party line?



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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For crying out loud.

How dare the GOP attack that ponzi scheme called social security.

First in First out leaving thers holding the bag.

A bag that people have to PAY INTO decades before they ever see a cent.

A bag that as ever year passes the value of the dollars decrease.

Social Securtiy is a GD vow of poverty.

Same amount of time investing in evil WALL STREET would give a person a FAR BETTER lifestyle than SS does.

But hey never mind that that GD evil GOP!.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: Jamie1

With all due respect you’re not reading the material closely.

But Ill try again.

That’s why one alludes to source material so one can go to the site and get the information.

Here it simply is a plow because soon the disability program will run out of money and they will not be able to get it from the general funds of SS in which before they did without any hassle.

When that occurs the GOP WILL NOT raise taxes to supplement the disability fund so it will be cut instead

READ:



As one of their first orders of business, the House Republicans approved a rule preventing routine reallocation of Social Security funds to those men, women and children who receive Social Security Disability, unless such a reallocation is accompanied by either benefit cuts or tax increases:



The disability program is for disabled people such as my father who died years ago. He worked for 40 years and got sick and couldn't work, He got SS disability.

Or young people who get hurt and cant work.. If you die your kid or wife can get some money
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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:02 PM
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Anything they do to stop the looting of social security retirement is fine with me.

I don`t care if the retirement fund gets to 50 bazillion trillion dollars sitting there in it, LEAVE IT ALONE!

The retirement fund is funded by working people and should be for retirement only.

I not positive but I think anyone can get money from the disability fund even people who have NEVER paid any money into it.

If they think there is too much money sitting in the retirement trust fund then give the retired people more money,but don`t steal the money from the retirement trust fund and use it to give kickbacks to campaign contributors or buy more billion dollar missiles with it.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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They are also cutting funds from Pell Grants for college students, to give the money to banks.

To make sure only the rich can attend college, of course. The way it used to be, and the way they want it to be. Clearly. This is just the beginning. It WILL get worse.

Source:www.washingtonpost.com...

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: Willtell


Dude, the Democrats have been playing this social security fear card since the Reagan / Mondale debates (I am sure before this but this is my first exposure to it).

So, since this time, what have the Republicans actually DONE to get rid of it?

Article from 1984
www.nytimes.com...


I have also heard time and time again that the OLD People won't get their checks if "this happens".

I do not know of one instance in which recipients didn't get their monthly checks.

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

How about posting up the actual bill....

and maybe cite the "problem" language

Can you do that?







posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

SS WAS NEVER just a retirement fund

It was and is also an insurance fund.

Children, for example, whose parents die can get insurance and SS support. Not a hell of a lot but some



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Help your self.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

And they will continue to do it or the GOP will totally gut it if given a chance

Good that's what their elected to do



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:18 PM
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Agency Program Information




Background The Retirement, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (RSDI) program refers to retirement, survivors, and disability benefits paid to workers, their dependants, and survivors. For more detailed information on each of these programs, please visit the following link


Social Security pays disability benefits to you and certain members of your family if you have worked long enough and have a medical condition that has prevented you from working

www.ssa.gov...



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: xuenchen

Help your self.


What?

You mean to tell us you don't even know what bill this is in?

Hmmm.




posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Yeah its bill #666

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Jamie1

With all due respect you’re not reading the material closely.

But Ill try again.

That’s why one alludes to source material so one can go to the site and get the information.

Here it simply is a plow because soon the disability program will run out of money and they will not be able to get it from the general funds of SS in which before they did without any hassle.

When that occurs the GOP WILL NOT raise taxes to supplement the disability fund so it will be cut instead

READ:



As one of their first orders of business, the House Republicans approved a rule preventing routine reallocation of Social Security funds to those men, women and children who receive Social Security Disability, unless such a reallocation is accompanied by either benefit cuts or tax increases:



The disability program is for disabled people such as my father who died years ago. He worked for 40 years and got sick and couldn't work, He got SS disability.

Or young people who get hurt and cant work.. If you die your kid or wife can get some money


Yes, so the SS fund will not be allowed to be gutted to bail out the disability fund.

How is that an attack on Social Security?

This is Orwellian doublespeak.

Protecting the social security fund from being raided to pay for the disability fund is being labeled as an "attack" on the social security fund.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: infolurker

And they will continue to do it or the GOP will totally gut it if given a chance

Good that's what their elected to do


The only party talking about stealing my retirement (401k and IRA) is the Demoncrats.

They wish to grab 22 trillion in retirement accounts and private pensions in order to fund bond purchases. That is why they are starting this MyIRA scheme.

(they call it social security 2 - why should you risk your money in the stock market?) Freeking another sad Ponzi scheme.

Teresa Ghilarducci - www.youtube.com...
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