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False Flags, Islamophobia, Putin, North Korean Nukes, Iranian Threats... Is This The End?

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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: sosobad

It doesn't worry me who blinks or even what comes once the blink happens, at least in the short term. What scares me is what happens once the smoke clears.

My fear, one I feel is soundly based in fact and is observable is global Oligarchy.



Now that is a scary thought, it already has roots in today's world with royalty, despots and faux democracy and look at how f-ed up things are at the moment..... I can't or want to imagine a worse scenario.
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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

A world war is a difficult thing to start even though there is a plethora of conflict in the world.

One has to look at the first two wars as an example that informs of how these monstrous wars start.

Between the two wars we have a similarity today to the 2nd WW in terms of the Jihadists can be correlated to a Hitler type force. But their isn’t enough of them to compare to the Nazis who had millions of armed troops at their disposal as well as Italy, Hungary, and Japan and other minor allies.

Today’s Jihadists don’t have remotely any similar force to start any world war

That leaves the example of WWI where the powers didn’t have a enthusiastic Nazi movement but you did have ancient powers trying to hold on To their empires, the Russians, Hapsburgs, and the Germans, so the tension was ripe and all it took was an assassination and they started the war. In the end all three of those super powers were striped of their empires.

I think today’s world is more like WWI than WW II



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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Same # different day .. only thing that changes is the names of the players in the pathetic game .. things go on as they always have.. in the long run none of it means a damn thing ..



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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yes, yes, I know... North Korea is always threatening something.


*"According the South more often than not", probably could have been added...

But everything else I agree with.


As for Iran, I'm not too sure if they meant "regret" as a threat of war, or an economic & profiteering warning...
Make of that statement what you will really...


I do think the Islamophobia has reached all time highs...
Possibly surpassing what was felt just after 9/11 & 7/7...


What do I think?


I think there is a section of Humanity that is pushing for Armageddon, rather than preparing for it like the average Believer...

I think Shaytan & his little minions are bundling every problem in the World into one pile and linking them together to up the ante...



They've started pushing race into a class war because they knew the pitchforks were coming for the 1%...

They've been saying to protect good Muslims & persecuted Christians & endangered Jews all while funding the very same Terrorism that threatens us all in the name of Abraham's (pbuh) Lord (SWT)...



Come Judgement Day, we will all be rewarded with what we've earned...



There will be no injustice.

For Allah is merciful & wise.


Ameen!
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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

To be honest, I'm not even sure a modern war would require recognizable warfare - meaning bombs, soldiers, tanks, etc. It could take an entirely different form - economics, information control, manipulation of popular opinion and so forth.

There have been many events over the past few decades that seemed to be stress tests or reaction tests. An example, it rained one year in Louisiana and we spent, what, nearly a decade paying four bucks a gallon because of it?

Then, recently, gas prices drop for no good reason at all? Just as tensions in every other geopolitical area start to go ballistic?

That's just one of many strange things that have happened. I am not a believer in thinking it's all deliberate ( though some of it certainly was ) - I do believe that our collective reactions, globally and societally have been studied and analyzed very closely after each of these events. If patterns have emerged and are understood then it implies that they can be artificially stimulated and manipulated.

Those in power now hold the technology to know what we're going to do, as a collective, before we do it and that is very, very dangerous.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide





If patterns have emerged and are understood then it implies that they can be artificially stimulated and manipulated. Those in power now hold the technology to know what we're going to do, as a collective, before we do it and that is very, very dangerous.


Indeed....
I believe such patterns have been shown to exist, and be "controllable".....

Very dangerous.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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I know I've become more attentive to your posts/threads Heff, because dammit! You can be eerily right at times!

A lot of bad things have happened at once. We know from our experiences it's happened before. When it does, our anxiety builds. I think this is what everyone is feeling. *Anxiety*. Included in the very definition is "a sense of pending doom".

So under the circumstances, it's natural to have some of that rotten mess. I hate anxiety. Ugh.

I mean yeah, there could actually be "pending doom", but I'm just gonna go with Occam's Razor.
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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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Another great article Heff, I too feel something is up and the people in my little circle of family and friends feel something is ready to go down too. No one in my circle has said it out loud but I do believe we are on the edge of a global war. I feel it so strongly that I have intentionally stayed off of ATS for the last 2 i/2 months but the feelings continue to get stronger. Today I log in to find your post one of the first ones I see.

Glad I am not alone in this feeling and there are others out there that are feeling something big is about to happen. Uncertain times we are all living in.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: Jakal26
a reply to: Hefficide





If patterns have emerged and are understood then it implies that they can be artificially stimulated and manipulated. Those in power now hold the technology to know what we're going to do, as a collective, before we do it and that is very, very dangerous.


Indeed....
I believe such patterns have been shown to exist, and be "controllable".....

Very dangerous.



Those in power seek to control the masses. If I am reading your post and intent correctly, the only thing being controlled here is the T&C and an attempt to keep the thread on topic.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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You’re absolutely right. Things change so war changes accordingly.

My point though is that if you look inside the hearts and minds of humans you will likely find the same or similar thinking that starts all the epochal wars in any era:

Greed, ignorance, intolerance, hatred, selfishness, sectarian ethnocentricity, all merely configured or reconfigured to different levels.

And the positive aspects of the inner human: Heroic like the Kurds.

Empathy for the oppressed like the noble White men who died to free black slaves in the civil war.

The great generals like Patton who led the charge against the evils of the Nazi army

So we have the evil archetypes and the good archetypes to make a war.

I just hope we have enough of the good archetypes to win the next war for the good of all humankind.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:33 PM
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Heff

Do you remember seeing this from 2012?




North Korea could have fuel for 48 nuclear weapons by 2015

North Korea will have been able to build as many as 48 nuclear weapons by 2015 unless the international community is able to make sanctions already imposed on the regime work.




source

Why do they need nukes from Russia?
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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Sadly from what I see Orwell was painstakingly accurate in predicting doublespeak as the qualities that, at least I consider to be "good" ( and I am sure others think as I do ) are becoming increasingly demonized. Caring is now synonymous with enabling. Empathy is now seen as "being apologist". Fairness is now seen as "socialism".

Once upon a time we hung horse thieves. Now we hire them to run Corporations and Governments.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: Phatdamage

The article doesn't say they're getting nukes - it says that they are negotiating for state of the art fighter aircraft.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:39 PM
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My fear, one I feel is soundly based in fact and is observable is global Oligarchy.
a reply to: Hefficide That is what I would say we have now .Is the fear that they will just come out into the open ? Don't worry about that because the masses might get some ideas . Right now they have the masses focusing on their political puppets .They wont give up that kind of distraction and have us all looking at them without love in our eyes .



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

Probably the thing to watch out for is The Caucasus.

The Coming EU-Eurasian Union Crisis In The Caucasus



Forecasting ahead, the geographic disconnect between Eurasian Union partners Armenia and Russia may be exploited by the West via Georgia and the EU to entice Russia once more with the Reverse Brzezinski trap. Russia is Armenia’s largest trade partner and accounts for over half of its foreign investment, which is only expected to grow. The vulnerability in this relationship, however, is that Georgia physically stands in the way of the two countries, and 70% of Armenian imports and exports go through it. When the time comes for Georgia to implement the imminent EU tariff barriers that come with moving closer to the Union, this will directly get in the way of Armenian-Russian bilateral trade and could potentially make some products prohibitively expensive for their respective markets, to say nothing of the potential for a de-facto blockade over trumped-up ‘reasons’.

This would thus have internal effects within the Eurasian Union’s Armenian and Russian markets, amounting in some ways to an asymmetrical attack on them, especially in the case of Armenia, whose economy is small, weak, and vulnerable to this type of shock. Should this occur in coordination with an escalation of Armenian-Azeri tensions over Nagorno-Karabakh, then it could easily be the straw that breaks the back of Russia’s Caucasian ally, with negative implications for Moscow in the region and the Eurasian Union in general. Under such circumstances, it may appear tempting and almost irresistible for Russia to contemplate using military means against Georgia to ensure the security of its vital trade to Armenia (as well as to resolve the threats to South Ossetia and Abkhazia once and for all), thereby giving rise to the second application of the Reverse Brzezinski theorem.


Source



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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I dont think a global war is about to break out. I think the war is here already. It is a war for our idendity and it works by trying to keep us in a state of constant fear. Ebola, cyber attack, NK, awol planes, massacraces.. Its an endless wheel that is used to control us...

purp..



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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Sorry, I read it as getting aircraft to use nukes obtained by Russia.

Either way NK have the these bombs , however they get in. I.e aircraft. Dirty. Boot of car or in backpack. Its scary times.

Compared to the US base in SK what is the main aircraft they use? How would they compete?



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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If I am reading your post and intent correctly


Apparently, not even close. My post was an assertion that what you said (what I quoted from you) was correct...nothing more, nothing less....




the only thing being controlled here is the T&C and an attempt to keep the thread on topic.


No, the T&C is being "utilized" (though not by you, yourself, of course...just the nature of this beast) so that the opposing side of the argument cannot be fully displayed, and I (and others) believe it to be prudent to the conversation. The fact that you don't means we disagree.....no big deal.

I was simply stating I agree with what I quoted from you...again, nothing more, nothing less....

The T&C, IMHO, is a hindrance to this particular subject, in this regard, because it doesn't allow for the full scope of truth and thus isn't "denying ignorance"....

That is as far as I will go with it...
I like it here and don't wish to pursue the "ATS is inhibiting my freedoms" bit.......(I know the rules here.....but I'm also just "rebelling a bit and playing my "other side")......

The truth will stand when the world is ablaze.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 06:33 PM
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The next world war will be a war for your mind and it wont be pretty as the mind has no firewall-this is just the preliminaries.



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