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I have no problem with Obama but here's where he is wrong

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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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I have no issues with Obama I'm totally aware of the fact that the presidency is all smoke and mirrors and is being used as a tool to divide us.

Now having said that I want to present a new idea here for you.

Instead of funding college programs I think the government would be wise to use its resources to create better apprenticeship programs in business to encourage companies to eat some of the costs of educating their employees.

The only way I can think of doing this right now is by offering tax breaks to companies who use apprentice programs.

If you have a better idea please offer it up I'm interested in this perspective.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

That's not something within the state's control, whereas offering schooling at state run colleges is. One can offer tax breaks, but in the end, it would still be up to the individual.
edit on 12-1-2015 by TheArrow because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: TheArrow

Right but tax based incentives have been proven to work to a degree right?

I may be wrong about that but what's another way for us to encourage this?



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

I'm not making a value judgement on your proposal but it seems that 2 year community colleges might be the right place to consolidate industrial & technician level education.

Corporations would turn apprenticeship into indentured servitude or worse --slave labor. If you don't believe me, look closely at the H1B visa program and the role of the incarcerated labor force in the US.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: InverseLookingGlass

You may be right but remember at one point that's what we had to do and it worked.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 05:59 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: TheArrow

Right but tax based incentives have been proven to work to a degree right?

I may be wrong about that but what's another way for us to encourage this?


There aren't enough skilled jobs in many industries to begin with, and no amount of tax breaks are going to be enough to get people to apprentice others that are going to in turn water down the customer base.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Your idea is good but the trade deals with China get in the way
In my country apprenticeships were once the norm but are few and far between these days

In my opinion the powers that be do not want a skilled work force ...



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: TheArrow

I guess it really comes down to there not really being enough jobs anymore.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Instead, maybe colleges should be using the millions they receive from their athletic programs to help reduce the cost of their outrageous tuition. Stop giving coaches million dollar contracts and put the savings back into reducing student tuition costs. They can also stop the frivolous development of their college campuses. They also scalp students on parking, and residential housing. Not to mention, the outrageous costs for books and lab fees. Everything is designed to suck as much money out of these young kids and their parents! Is there any wonder why tuition costs have raised faster than inflation? At the current rate, a baby born today will face college costs that are 3.7 times higher than they are today!

What ticks me off, is when my Alma Mater calls me and asks for a donation. Really? Didn't you drain enough money from me and now you want more? Now they're draining my kids!

Most countries value educating their citizens, but it seems like the U.S. is making a college education more unattainable. Without an educated populace, our economy will tank, lack innovation, and leadership in the world.

Soon, these colleges and universities are going to price themselves right out of the market!



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

I have several issues with your POTUS, but I think you're on the right track focussing on apprenticeship.

The US should just copy the German dual apprenticeship system already.
No tax breaks needed (I'm personally all for abolishing taxes though).
It costs your nation practically nothing and you get highly skilled workers in return.

You get your economy in order and can give us our gold back... win-win.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

Good point we need to get that under control before anything else is done.


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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:40 PM
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a reply to: reformedtro11nowgenious

Hmmm.

Not sure how to take that but I'm getting a sense of sarcasm am I right?


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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: reformedtro11nowgenious

So people with more money are republicans?

We already knew that.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

And income correlates with intelligence..............

I hope you can take it from here.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: reformedtro11nowgenious

Hmmm. Yeah for sure there's only one variable.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Time to make one.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: LOSTinAMERICA

One what?



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

A job. Sorry, I didn't quote your post in my last one.
edit on 12-1-2015 by LOSTinAMERICA because: (no reason given)



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