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Brainwashing...."Dont Hurt The Good Muslims" Every Time A Bomb Goes Off

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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

The point is, that peoples opinions are formed by such crap, and some of them are just too dumb stupid to know any better than what they see on TV, so they simply repeat that kind of crap as gospel.




posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock
What does upset me is the fact the I cant post a possible conspiracy idea for consideration on the top conspiracy site without getting jolted as an intolerant goon. Don't understand why I have to jump through the standard PC hoops ect.


Point out where I called you intolerant. I think I've figured out your problem with talking to me. You have a habit of taking opposing views to your arguments personally, especially views from me. I haven't attacked your character or insulted you once in this thread. In fact, I even pointed out that if you DID feel as such, I forgave you because it was the picture the media painted. I've done everything possible NOT to label you intolerant. Yet here you are putting words in my mouth again.


Just as a note I was all for defending Muslims in what was once called Yugoslavia. Really didn't like what was happening to them. But I can separate that from some of this other recent goings on.


Awesome.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: neformore

So true, I see it on ATS. I see mods post things and it's suddenly the gospel truth.

So since you showed your beef with conservative media (obvious bull) how do you feel about the equally stinky liberal media? Or are only conservatives stupid? See as someone who doesn't follow either party I think anyone who votes for or believes in any party (regardless of where they live) is a brainwashed clown.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Logarock

Hey, don't put words in my mouth. I am not, even for a second, excusing the actions undertaken by the terrorists in France. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of everyone calling Muslims into question for the actions of a few.



I never intended to do that. I see this sort of conclusion by yourself a reflection of conditioning and maybe a level of brainwashing.


You didn't? Then why are you making assumptions about my beliefs? You've made several in your last posts by saying what I would and wouldn't do.

I just want an even handed approach to radicalism.



Ok yea. An even handed approach. Not a bunch of fear reaction as well. I get the feeling that the issue is dealt with in a certain fashion out of fear. We cant afford to be afraid or worry to much about offending Muslims in this thing. After all the same magazine posted a cartoon of baby Jesus poking his head out of buck toothed marys womb and many other things some christians found offensive.

In fact I heard a guy the other day, may have been a christian, calling those at the magazine a bunch of pornographers.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I could but frankly cant believe that you haven't looked into it yourself.




You made the claim, you produce the evidence. Whether I looked into it or not is irrelevant. For all you know I know everything there is to know about this issue and am just baiting you. OR I may not know anything about it and am hoping you'd educate me on it. Who knows? But at the end of the day, when you make a claim, it behooves you to support it with your own evidence.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Logarock

Difference is, even the most offended Christian wouldn't attack the office for those cartoons. I can't recall the last time a cartoon Jesus set off a terrorist attack...



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I can only speak for what I have experienced.
I have been told I will goto hell in real life many times by Christians and many times on ATS...Muslims not once.
Like I have said I mock them all they are mans works not from God.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: Logarock

I support Hebdo's actions, and I hope if they had the chance to do so, would do it again despite knowing the outcome. I don't care if the Muslim religion is made to look bad. I just care that people aren't stereotyping others based on a few bad apples.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Like I said, I beleive what I see with my own eyes.

When I can't see it, I take a balanced view from various media sources on both sides of the argument.

And when something is crap - like that video, I say it is.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: neformore

So do I. Your attacks on conservative media along with you ignoring the equal insanity of the liberal media is crap.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I could but frankly cant believe that you haven't looked into it yourself.




You made the claim, you produce the evidence. Whether I looked into it or not is irrelevant. For all you know I know everything there is to know about this issue and am just baiting you. OR I may not know anything about it and am hoping you'd educate me on it. Who knows? But at the end of the day, when you make a claim, it behooves you to support it with your own evidence.



Its really another thread. And I did make a thread about one aspect of the issue. But really don't make me do your homework for you. Besides where have you been? Is this the first you have heard about it? They have had congressional hearings on the issue already!



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Logarock
What does upset me is the fact the I cant post a possible conspiracy idea for consideration on the top conspiracy site without getting jolted as an intolerant goon. Don't understand why I have to jump through the standard PC hoops ect.


Point out where I called you intolerant. I think I've figured out your problem with talking to me. You have a habit of taking opposing views to your arguments personally, especially views from me. I haven't attacked your character or insulted you once in this thread. In fact, I even pointed out that if you DID feel as such, I forgave you because it was the picture the media painted. I've done everything possible NOT to label you intolerant. Yet here you are putting words in my mouth again.


Just as a note I was all for defending Muslims in what was once called Yugoslavia. Really didn't like what was happening to them. But I can separate that from some of this other recent goings on.


Awesome.




You are getting heated. I set it off a few pages ago with an offhand reference to you well know christian lambasting! LOL But its ok, its ok. LOL.

What I do take personally is not disagreement but....bullsh*t. Thats not necessarily aimed at you. So let stop shooting.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

for someone who doesn't know me at all, because we've never interacted before, thats a mighty big assumption isn't it?



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: neformore

I can say the same for you, posting a conservative video and thinking it applies to me.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: ketsuko

I can only speak for what I have experienced.
I have been told I will goto hell in real life many times by Christians and many times on ATS...Muslims not once.
Like I have said I mock them all they are mans works not from God.


You ask for an honest opinion on something, you get an honest answer. This is what a discussion forum is for. Likely those Muslims you interact with daily are thinking the same things about all of us because none of us is Muslim. But since they are not here giving their honest opinions, then you are not getting those responses.

I wouldn't tell you that you are going to Hell to your face, either, and I honestly don't know you enough to know if I think that is likely true. But if you ask me a question about something on belief I will give as honest a response as I can. Do atheists go to Heaven? Well, if it requires faith and belief, then you know what the obvious conclusion is for someone who claims not to have any. Sorry if that offends.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Just to point out I am not an atheist.
Religion does not have a monopoly on God.
Not offended btw I love everyone on ATS.

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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: neformore

Hay by the way I had my cable shut off. LOL



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Like I said, I beleive what I see with my own eyes.

When I can't see it, I take a balanced view from various media sources on both sides of the argument.

And when something is crap - like that video, I say it is.


I also beleive what I see with my own eyes, and my views about Islam and those who beleive in Islam is different than yours , so who is closer to the truth?



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock
This is a proposition that we are slowly having our brains juxtaposizized with smoke and mirror mind screwing concerning our perception of maniac Muslims. The effect is, efforts are being made, that we are embracing Islam in a sort of Stockholm syndrome sufferer way. Not to mention having, like the old carnival woman who slowly turned into an ape at this rate we will be seeing these maniacs as dancers and prancers among the wild meadow flowers.

The mantra...."Good Muslims, Good Muslims, Good Muslims"....in the context of horrifically violent images and radical editorial by same.

It scratches its head like an ape and wonders why its government allows a homegrown radical indoctrination and recruitment. Threats to the host culture by funny clown men who may as well put up a sign "Crazy people wanted". But but but!!!!! "Good Muslims, Good Muslims, Good Muslims".

The effects of prolonged, long-term fear.....Stockholm......just look at the female Nigerian vest bombers. The abused clinging to the abuser.



It amazes me how much Islamic Hate I see on this website and in the media. To those who don't believe in Good Muslims who only believe that Islam teaches jihad and evil, HAVE YOU EVER READ THE KORAN?

If someone has never read the Koran why do they judge Mohammad? Mohammad was a prophet who believed that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. And that someday the Jews, Christians and Muslims would be reconciled by the correct understanding of the three books.

He claimed the Catholic church, which was saying the Pope is God's only authority was not teaching the true message found in the bible. Understand at the time of Mohammad the church was killing everyone who would not bow down and accept the Pope as God's only authority on earth.

Mohammad's Jihad was to protect his people from this heresy. He reminded his people that the Holy Spirit was within them, and that God was on the side of the righteous. With sticks and stones, a true David vs Goliath, Mohammad was able to get his people to action. Destroying everything and setting up a temple for Allah that still stands. This should be proof that God was on the side of Mohammad who was against the Pope and their Kings. Revelation backs up Mohammad's claim that the teaching of Christ would be destroyed and a false church would raise up.

During the Catholic Inquisition people were forced to be baptized into a faith that left the Pope as the only authority on earth that speaks to God. If they did not accept baptism they were killed. If they professed a different belief in Christ, they were tortured.

This was the world Mohammad lived in 1400 years ago. Those who attack others without first being attacked, those who kill people who do not stand in their way, they do not follow Mohammad, no more than the Catholics who were killing and torturing were following Christ.

The problem isn't the Koran or Islam, these things were given to us by God's prophet. The problem lies in a world where no one follows the prophets, and some use their texts to justify all kinds of self-righteous hate and acts of evil.


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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I could but frankly cant believe that you haven't looked into it yourself.




You made the claim, you produce the evidence. Whether I looked into it or not is irrelevant. For all you know I know everything there is to know about this issue and am just baiting you. OR I may not know anything about it and am hoping you'd educate me on it. Who knows? But at the end of the day, when you make a claim, it behooves you to support it with your own evidence.



Its really another thread. And I did make a thread about one aspect of the issue. But really don't make me do your homework for you. Besides where have you been? Is this the first you have heard about it? They have had congressional hearings on the issue already!


What homework? I just saw you make an assertion and I just wanted you to back it up. Again, I could know everything there is to know about this subject, but it doesn't change the fact that you made a claim that needs to be backed up. Why are you so fervently arguing this fact with me?

Just produce the evidence that all Muslim clerics who say inciteful things are radicalizing other muslims to fight in a holy war. That way your conjecture that I am comparing apples to oranges with the Fred Phelps thing holds true.



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