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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: sacgamer25
According to the book, God not only does tempt man...
but he can also be tempted...
I know you don't believe that Christ is the Lord of the OT, but that is the only way to reconcile this concept.
edit on 14-1-2015 by sacgamer25 because: (no reason given)
We glorify God through Jesus.
Personally I find that calling Jesus God makes him a liar by omission... and takes glory from the Father who is the true God
We should glorify the son, without a doubt... but even he gave the glory to the Father, and kept none for himself...
That was a sign of His presence, which would then made that place "holy", thus driving out ordinary people who would normally occupy that space.
The Holy Spirit manifested physically.
Notice how Jesus says, This Generation, which is those who rejected the King of Peace, and went with the murderous rebels who fought against the Romans and brought down the destruction of Jerusalem.
Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Comes in whose glory?
Didn't give it back, He's coming in the glory of God the Father. That's the Gospel right there.
Right, but the Bible goes on to point out that God delegates authority to others to deal with rebellious people who do not naturally recognize His authority, making them "acting" God, in His name.
The only way anyone knows about Jesus is through the words written in the bible... without which Jesus would not be anyone... but God still exists
But "the Bible", as in the New Testament, would not exist, in my opinion, if Jesus had not come to Paul as the risen and glorified Christ.
generally speaking yes.... IF the bible didn't exist... Jesus would have been just another person lost to history and time
And Even IF it didn't exist, and he came to you... no one would know who or what you're talking about anyways
It's a story, and to make their God great and deserving of honor by the empires, there had to be more than just a land full of diverse ethnic groups, so there was the fictional device of "the 12 tribes" that were all related, who conquered the land in the name of a single, unifying God.
Secondly... it wasn't just war... It was people conquering and pillaging lands that were not theirs, but they took them by force because "god" said these lands were given to them... yet there were people already in possession of them...
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.
Who created the evil paths that men take?
Did got not create the path of demon worship and the path of Light?
Or do you believe that God only created good, and that man goes on his own path? Do you believe that man was the first one to have the idea of human sacrifice or God?
Can man imagine anything that did not first come the imagination of God?
You can not escape the obvious. Both the dark and Light path exist. And few find the path of Light.
You have to believe in demon worship, that power can come from worshipping demons, if you think anyone other than the One God created the dark path.
If God created the dark path, and for reasons that make no since to you decided to instuct the things he instructed the Israelites to do, why do you stand in judgment of God?
If the existence of Evil disproves a loving God then thier can be no loving God. Unless of course the One God admits to creating the darkness so that we may learn how to be Like Him.
I don't believe that thier is any evil power accept the power of the lie. And the one who follows evil.
You have decided that man himself is at war with God. And you have decided that man can imagine things that God himself never imagined. Doesn't that make our imagination superior to God's, at least in part?
I believe man is only in a war against himself, and the light and dark paths were created because we wanted the knowledge of Good and Evil.
God created the evil path and gave man freewill, knowing those who would follow the evil path would rise to be tyrannical leaders. The Babylonians actually serve humanity by becoming so lost in depravity that mankind can truly understand how dark the darkness can be.