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Hate preacher BACKS the Paris massacres and tells his followers 'Britain is the enemy of Islam'

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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: boymonkey74


Lock him up It is illegal what he has said.

There it goes out the window

Locking people up for what they say…


That's the biggest problem with this.

Logic says you can't allow someone to preach hate and inspire terrorism because innocent people are typically the victims.

However, we have freedoms of speech. If you lock these people up, does it set a precedent? Can people who speak out against the government be locked up too because they could inspire violence and revolt?

If we start arresting these "hate preachers" where does the slippery slope lead us?

Would arresting him result in violence, as well? Is it a victory for the terrorists if they cause us to abandon our own ideology to combat them?
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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: Granite

The coward fascist Muslims are as much the enemy of the people of britain and the middle east as the coward fascists who are in power in most places including Britain. The reason these Muslims are coward fascists is because they target common people, blaming them for simply being citizens of a demonic empire. If you openly call these acts justified you're the one who should be getting worried that your time is running out, because the people, the common people of all the land, who don't care about borders or religion, are getting sick of your coward crony gangsterism targetting the innocent. It's not jihad! And jihad is not the enemy! If muslims want to declare jihad, please do! Do it against fascism, and intolerance.

This fascist crony fool has just put a big target over his bead. Does he think he is going to bemsafe in London anymore? HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL NO!
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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:19 PM
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So much for this grandiose talk about free speech.

This guy is an idiot. But if we truly believe in free speech then he has a right to say what he has. We are free to disagree and challenge what he says. Not just lock him up and throw away the key.

Seems to me you have no argument to make if your first resort is to lock someone up who says something you don't like.

This man is a fool. A misguided idiotic fool. But I've met many misguided fools (at times I'm one too). But I don't want people to be locked up for it.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: Answer


If we start arresting these "hate preachers" where does the slippery slope lead us?

We just lock them up. For fear of blow back from waging aggressive war in the middle east.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: boymonkey74


Lock him up It is illegal what he has said.

There it goes out the window

Locking people up for what they say…


At least he would still be breathing though (unfortunatley)



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: Boeing777

Great Britain is the enemy of arseholes not Islam.

Something his sort should probably keep in mind before attempting to incite religious war or hated amongst our population, we have been at it for the past 500 years or so. Talk about biting off more than they can chew!

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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: WeRpeons

It is treason against the UK now can you be hung for treason still?.


No EU made us abolish that.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: groingrinder
I really do not understand how these guys live so long. I am genuinely amazed that the SAS has not double tapped these hate preachers. I think they seriously need to be sent a message.


Extra judicial killing are not something welcome or needed in a civilized country.

Such things make you are bad as ISIS.

He needs a trial and due process.

Justice needs to be done properly.
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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: boymonkey74


Lock him up It is illegal what he has said.

There it goes out the window

Locking people up for what they say…


It not just what he says.

He is inciting violence.

Even in the USA there is a line were direct threats of violence is a big no no.

You ignore something like that you could very well end up at the wrong end of a suicide bomber or Ak-47.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: Kram09
So much for this grandiose talk about free speech.

This guy is an idiot. But if we truly believe in free speech then he has a right to say what he has. We are free to disagree and challenge what he says. Not just lock him up and throw away the key.

Seems to me you have no argument to make if your first resort is to lock someone up who says something you don't like.

This man is a fool. A misguided idiotic fool. But I've met many misguided fools (at times I'm one too). But I don't want people to be locked up for it.



If I threaten to kill you and your family (Im not) that is a crime. Would you want me walking around if I did that and had a past history of violent crime?


If so there is no different for a extremist encouraging a group to commit mass violence.


It fine for him to say he hates Britain, he can even say he support ISIS.

The line is drawn when he supports and encourages acts of violence.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Exactly.
Free speech is one thing but to allow free speech that may make people kill others should not be allowed.
Full free speech will not work in civilized society...we wouldn't be civilized for very long.
Anyhow I hope the police are knocking on his door seizing his computer and getting all the names of the people who follow him.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: Boeing777

originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Boeing777




Can't believe this son of a bitch is still walking free after all the stuff he has said.


These people give humanity a bad name. If you're ignorant enough to believe your God condones killing his creations, than you deserve to meet him early.


The logic of these extremists is ridiculous. Killing God's creation for God.


You know what else is ridiculous, actually very ironic? That this clown is making those statements against Britain right on English soil. In the same country that opened up its doors for him, hosted him, gave him asylum and a possibility to live free, most likely well fared him and fulfilled all his needs. The very same system that this ungrateful prick is attacking now and is inviting others to hate and possibly to take violent actions against. Well done Britain. Open up your doors and let them in. Then bend over and use some oil so it won't hurt when they screw you. Left wing politic should be eradicated from political options.
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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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His character and his words are a western asset. I bet you if a beat cop were to run his ID, it would come back as "DO NOT DETAIN". Just a guess.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok


Even in the USA there is a line were direct threats of violence is a big no no.

Come to an American church sermon. Some of those guys are off the wall.

They don't get arrested for it either.

Try not to over react.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: Boeing777

These are the Idiots that MUST be Arrested and held in custody until time becomes extinct. They dish out a stack of nonsense, use - as in Nigeria - 10 year olds as Exposives carriers, . Without them 'PEACE' might be easier, and Young People could grow old peacefully. Its they who demand free speech etc. and apparently they get such, speak out against them and look how they tell their stooges to react. They are Sick hippocrites, eyt its us who are labelled as 'Rascist' for saying something to stop them. Sick Murderous Louts



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: groingrinder

They're being allowed to preach this nonsense. To further destabilize and eventually destroy/rebuild the planet. All part of an elaborate plan to divide us and create absolute chaos.


But, isn't that what free speech is about? Say what you like, regardless of who is offended?



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: Aliian

FREE SPEECH must also be attached to Respect and Consideration.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: steaming
a reply to: Aliian

FREE SPEECH must also be attached to Respect and Consideration.


This is all very confusing to me. Isn't that the point being made by the Muslims about the cartoons?
Or is the cartoons of the Prophet showing "Respect and Consideration" ?

You see, I think these Islamic guys are smarter than many people give them credit for. They say outrageous things just to get people to think and say the exact things they should be thinking and saying when they are poking fun at others instead.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: Boeing777

Sounds like the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded room. This is not free speech, this is speech designed to kill people.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:54 AM
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originally posted by: Aliian

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: groingrinder

They're being allowed to preach this nonsense. To further destabilize and eventually destroy/rebuild the planet. All part of an elaborate plan to divide us and create absolute chaos.


But, isn't that what free speech is about? Say what you like, regardless of who is offended?



It goes beyond being offended.

Irs threatening actuall violence.



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