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Was Barack Hussein Obama A Sunni Wolf Dressed In The Clothes Of A Democratic Lamb?

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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

And the hits just keep coming folks.




posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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Guys, and gals, we all know about wrestling with a pig in the mud.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme



Lather, rinse, repeat.
You keep saying the same thing but still offer nothing to support what you say.
There are lots of photos of him from childhood through teen years and right up to today. Any that show him attending service at a mosque? On a prayer rug? Praying towards Mecca?
Any paperwork for school where his religion was noted as Muslim? Other Muslims he hung out with at university who will say yeah we studied the Koran together or we went to the mosque together?



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: amazing

I could care less about his middle name. Whether it's Hussein or Gerald it's irrelevant to me.


Well that just can't be true. You're making a stand on him being Muslim and his middle name isn't important to your thought process? Certainly Hussein sounds Muslim, Barak and Obama too for that matter but those things just don't play any part at all in your paradigm?
Scoffs....
Right.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:05 PM
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You just insult everyone huh? All you have are lies and name calling to support your claims. Good going. When we choose up debate teams im going to choose you. (when there's no one else to choose besides you and a blind dog... And I'd seriously consider the dog first)
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme


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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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Alone again....naturally....



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: BushMaster16
remember how many really fine upstanding career officers Obama unceremoniously fired - whose careers he ruined?


If you had looked into why they were fired you would have found:-


where he went on what news reports called a “drunken bender,” fraternized with local women and made inappropriate comments disparaging the Russian military.

following an investigation into his use of fake casino chips in a poker game.

which found that he had misused his position and forced subordinate officers to perform personal tasks.

to have “not taken adequate force protection measures” at Camp Bastion, which led to the death of two Marines and the destruction of six Harrier jet fighters.

after an investigation into adultery and a physical altercation with a woman described as his mistress.

after an administrative hearing into alcohol abuse and sexual misconduct charges He was found to have used profanity in public and made several racially insensitive remarks


skeptoid.com...

How does the number of military officers sacked under Obama compare with the last 5 Presidents?



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 09:50 PM
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OP has no clue about Islam,
first the saudis are Wahabis and ISIS is their co-project with mossad and MI6 to counter the influence of real Sunni muslim players as turkey and egypt under mursi. Mursi was toppled with the help of the saudis to prevent a Turkey-Egypt alliance which would have broke every other geopolitical actors neck in the mideast. Everything ISIS did was completly against what Turkeys (the main sunni actor in the region) tried to establish in syria and north iraq.Yet turkey is beeing framed to help or even create ISIS.
Second, Why has noone asked themselfs how it comes that ISIS is portrayed worldwide as Sunni muslims but are infact following the wahabi/ selefi doctrines by the book?
Third, why has ISIS not even once threatend Israel, or came even close to threaten saudi interest?

But i have to give to give to OP the point that this incident with the saudi king is very suspicious. i my self am a muslim and that was not a regular bow, from another angle you can clearly see that he was going to kiss the hand of the king but the king refused him the kiss, because only muslims are allowed to kiss your hand. i think that obama just treid to be overly respectfull by kissing his hand, which he clearly picked up in indonisia



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 11:58 PM
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It seems like IS is an arm of SA, who seems to want to pull a Saddam and take control over a northern front, all the way thru Syria to Turkey. The Turks may not be happy with this....w/o buffer states (or mini states like Kurdistan). They are afterall a regional power.

This will ultimately bump up against Persian interests too. From the Caucasus, we'll see who will kick the back door open on this fray. Unfortunately, it looks like it'll be Russia itself. Turkey and Russia in open warfare against the West in piecemeal battles chosen by Russia in their current style.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 12:01 AM
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Iran "neutral", can protect it's borders and covertly assist Anti-IS forces. This could be a potent force.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: enkagiran

But i have to give to give to OP the point that this incident with the saudi king is very suspicious. i my self am a muslim and that was not a regular bow, from another angle you can clearly see that he was going to kiss the hand of the king but the king refused him the kiss, because only muslims are allowed to kiss your hand. i think that obama just treid to be overly respectfull by kissing his hand, which he clearly picked up in indonisia


You arrogantly [and incorrectly] state "OP has no clue about Islam,"
The thread was not intended as a treatise on demonic cults such as the lowly sect all dressed up 'posing and posturing' as a 'religion' called 'Islam.'

What its intended to address is all that is contained within the political concepts inherent in this question --> "Was Barack Hussein Obama A Sunni Wolf Dressed In The Clothes Of A Democratic Lamb?

Now - The points you made regarding "O"s kissing the ring of the king is the only aspect of your post that has any merit - not because we're in substantial agreement on the "attempted kiss", but because its an accurate observation; one that hardly anyone else is aware of apparently.

On that point -in an earlier post I had mentioned this attempt by "O" at the "kissing of the ring" of the Saudi king and you're the only other person that I've seen alluding to it. For my own part- on viewing the image for a little while I couldn't help but wonder why was his body leaning over to his left as if to kiss the right hand of the king? I also did some research on the web and wondered why no one else was commenting on it either. I didn't make a major issue of it because I was hoping to find a photo that would more fully substantiate my initial observations.

In relation to the possibility that Obama was not actually bowing but trying to kiss the kings ring I also realized why everyone else in the photo seemed a bit uncomfortable. Then I recalled that its been observed in several 'media' circles (news and otherwise) that some were laughing nervously because they were quite surprised by "O"s strange behavior. Others were just mocking him because of Obama's bumbling error.

As for the rest of your post - sorry to say, but your arrogance and conceit is rather unbecoming. You act as though you know it all and we don't anything and that puts you in the category of "blusterer/braggadocio" - a 'know it all' and that's unfortunate because you do have some potential as an observer of such events as are under discussion here.

PS: enkagiran I have a question for you and all the other liberals, Moslems, and defenders of "O"s bizarre behavior as relates to foreign policy in his arrogant refusal to accompany 40 other major world leaders plus millions of patriotic Frenchmen as they marched in solidarity protesting "Radical Islamic Terrorism?" in France and the rest of the world. In other words why was "O" afraid to take a stand against "Radical Islamic Terrorism?" He's an embarrassment to any patriotic American and he's brought shame to this country with such narcissistic self centered behavior.



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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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As an educated man myself I would like to approach the accusation "OP has no clue about Islam," originally posted by: enkagiran in the spirit of 'academic freedom' and in so doing to bring about an awareness here in the thread that there must (should) be a free and open discussion of the so-called religion that goes by the name 'Islam.' With that in mind supposing we take a more realistic approach to this alleged 'religion,' which is actually more akin to a demonic cult than a religion, and begin by saying that the alleged "Prophet Muhammad" probably never even existed.

We might go so far as to say that "Muhammad" wasn't actually the name of a person but a title, and that Islam began as a Christian heresy. The more I researched and studied on the matter the more I came to realize that the historical person at the root of the whole thing was becoming more and more improbable. Similar things might also be said about the Quran itself. Since when does God write books? Anyway, for many what really matters isn't whether Muhammad actually lived but the philosophy presented in his name.

This self-proclaimed prophet insisted that God had declared him to be the 'perfect example' for mankind and that others were therefore to accord him with special privilege, unwavering obedience, wealth and earthly desires, including all of the slaves and women that his lust could handle.

Now just because there were enough followers of Mohammed to cause the group to be recognized as a world religion does that make the cult leader's claims about himself true. Does that really alter the fact that what they believe ultimately emanated from the active imagination of a narcissist or worse?

An Arab salesman with a fold-up tent, a wagon and commanding personality attracted a small cult of naive, gullible fanatics by claiming to be a prophet. Though his so-called revelations' were self-referential and occasionally contradicting, he still succeeded in manipulating his followers with promises of heavenly reward and threats of divine punishment. The alleged "god" that was only heard by him told them to lie, cheat and steal for him, and to give their young children to him for sexual pleasure and, eventually, to gruesomely murder his detractors.

There are a couple of ways to examine Muhammad the so-called 'prophet.' One would be reverentially - another with a "jaundiced eye, so to speak - very skeptically. A thoughtful person would choose the latter not allowing themselves to be unduly influenced by their 'force of numbers' in the world today or ever by their 'force of belief' inasmuch these methods are meaningless for a determination of the truth. Caring persons care only about facts.




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posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: BushMaster16

All the exact same questions and accusations could be made against Jesus Christ, Christianity and Christians.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: enkagiran
OP has no clue about Islam,
first the saudis are Wahabis and ISIS is their co-project with mossad and MI6 to counter the influence of real Sunni muslim players as turkey and egypt under mursi. Mursi was toppled with the help of the saudis to prevent a Turkey-Egypt alliance which would have broke every other geopolitical actors neck in the mideast. Everything ISIS did was completly against what Turkeys (the main sunni actor in the region) tried to establish in syria and north iraq.Yet turkey is beeing framed to help or even create ISIS.
Second, Why has noone asked themselfs how it comes that ISIS is portrayed worldwide as Sunni muslims but are infact following the wahabi/ selefi doctrines by the book?
Third, why has ISIS not even once threatend Israel, or came even close to threaten saudi interest?


All I need to know about is that the “extremist” views that are at the heart of Sunni Wahhabism, which is the sect of Islam responsible for inspiring Salafi radicalism. [Actually, Islam itself can be defined as a "sect."] Saudi Arabia began exporting this brand of Islam in earnest when it worked with the United States to evict the Soviet Union from Afghanistan.

So your "expert" analysis is a little off - wouldn't you say?



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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You might be interested in checking out the following video. I think it's 9 minutes and 4 seconds well invested.

edit on 13-1-2015 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because



posted on Jan, 14 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: BushMaster16
Was Barack Hussein Obama A Sunni Wolf Dressed In The Clothes Of A Democratic Lamb?

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is a Sunni Islamist rebel group of which Barack Hussein Obama most likely plays a part, and it might not be a small one either. How extensive a part he plays will become more apparent to readers as they proceed. Judging from his rather bizarre behavior in his response to the extreme threat to the world that is ISIS, its my personal opinion that there's a possibility that Barack Hussein Obama could even be involved on a high level within their organization. Whether or not he's the [secret] Imam of this newly established Caliphate remains to be seen. We cannot be sure at this time, but it will probably become more evident after he leaves office.

The content of this picture is but one instance of Barack Hussein Obama's betrayal of this nation - and must not be attributed to a mere diplomatic "mistake" either. Its an early indication on his part of an outright obeisance to his Sunni master - the King of Saudi Arabia - and should be taken as an overt sign of what's lies ahead.



What you are witnessing here in this image is problematic not just because it violates long established protocol but because of the symbolism within; a sign of weakness, submission and obedience. That is precisely what it portrays and transmits to the rest of the world generally - and to the Muslim world in particular. No US president is ever supposed to bow down to any foreign head of state because it indicates acquiescence, and the American president does not submit to anyone. Anti-American Muslims all over the world were absolutely thrilled with the symbolism of his bowing to the King: the American president prostrating himself before a Muslim leader. This image also shows his Muslim allegiance to the "Sunni" sect.


The religion of Islam has several sects or branches, of which the largest denomination is the Sunni (Sunnah) interpretation.
Sunni Islam is based on the belief that the Prophet Muhammad died without appointing a successor to lead the Muslim community (ummah). According to Sunni Muslims, after Muhammad's death, the confusion that ensued from not having a person to head the community led to the election of Abu Bakr, the Prophet's close friend and father-in-law, as the first Caliph. This contrasts with the Shi'a Muslim belief that Muhammad himself appointed his first successor to be Ali ibn Abi Talib as the first Caliph and the first Muslim imam. The sectarian split that occurred in Islam between Sunni and Shi'a Muslims is based upon this early question of leadership.


We, the American people, have recently come to admit - in some small measure at least - that we share some of the blame for allowing this clandestine Muslim; this covert Sunni Jihadist, Barack Hussein Obama to have risen to such heights, and to have achieved high political office in America; to have ascended to the presidency even. It has long been known by many that Barack Hussein Obama is a master usurper, and this is certainly true. In the first place, he was never even eligible for American citizenship, let alone to qualify for political office, particularly that of President of the United States.

But the con game was on in a big way, and the fix was surely in - established by several well know members of his party, and not a few Republicans as well. Yet, the ignorant populace didn't recognize 'the fix' for what it really was, nor to have been anything other than the harmless 'setting up,' politically speaking, of an apparently intelligent black politician bound for political greatness not realizing, of course that he was merely 'chosen' to play a role; one that just happened to involve running for the highest political office in the land - not as a real person though, but as a charlatan: an actor playing a role on the "stage" of American politics.

"We the people" were quite enamored at the exotic sound of his fully Muslim name - Barack Hussein Obama! A name that should have set the alarm bells a-ringing very loudly at the very beginning, but instead - in their blinded ignorance they didn't have a clue as to 'who and what' this clever deceiver was and what he was really up to: what he 'really and truly" had in store for them and the coming generations of Americans. As I said - we have two more awful years to endure of this menacing deception. This consummate liar; this destructive evil force; this Satan worshiper! Time is now for the rest of you all to awake from your stupor and to realize, once and for all, that Barack Hussein Obama is out to destroy you and this entire nation!

For those who really care These Events Reveal How Obama Is Creating An Islamic Caliphate

]New ly conquered ISIL/ISIS territory.


]A Shi'ite volunteer who has joined the Iraqi army to fight the ISIL looks on during a parade in Kanaan



Please note Indonesia has the largest number of Sunni Muslims, and this is where Obama apparently spent his formative years, and received his Sunni Muslim indoctrination.

Obama is a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is Sunni, having bestowed on them a gift of more 1.5 billion dollars last year.
Obama Administration Gives $1.5 Billion To Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood
He also allows them 'visa free' travel throughout the US not having to present any documents at the airport.

He's also a supporter of Hamas who are Sunni Islamist's as well. They are an offshoot of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, a fundamentalist Islamic group who possess a profound desire to destroy secular Islam and Western society by means of violent jihad and general terrorism so as to bring back to the world a controlled state of fundamental religious Muslim rule.



The problem I have with this post, is that it still reeks of implicit euro and Judeo-Christian-centric thinking, wherein it isn't conceivable for a Muslim to hold the highest office. One, there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim, and from my long experience with Christians and Christian leaders, they aren't any better. Sometimes worse.

Obama isn't a Muslim dude.



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 01:15 AM
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"All I need to know about is that the “extremist” views that are at the heart of Sunni Wahhabism, which is the sect of Islam responsible for inspiring Salafi radicalism." If the extremisim of the kind of ISIS would have been at the heart of the muslims believe do you really think we muslims couldnt have wiped out all christians in the middle east, the balkans, the caucasus and africa in 1400 years??? Just as an example, when the "hordes of the turks" came to anatolia they were so numerous that they outnumbered the christian population 8 to 1, some christian scholars even say 14 to 1. Yet in the early 19hundreds one quarter of the population of anatolia were christian ( who then at the request of greece had been interchanged with the muslim population of greece later on ) do you realy think that if christians would have been persecuted economicaly, socialy or religiously they could have multiplied to that degree???? this alone shows how uneducated you are,
but look, i will not let you provoke me and will try to widen your narrow mind.
First in your rhetoric shines through that you are not a very educated man and that you fall for the lies produced and told you by various christian clerics who are very aware that they preaching not the word of god and are afraid of losing their flocks.
Secondly the answer to your question why Obama was not in Paris is that the security measures needed were impossible to realise if he went there.
Now for the part where i will try to enlighten you, i hope some of this will shine through:
While I would say that Obama is not politicaly and culturaly representing the america which you feel apart of, he is acting in the best interest of america as a whole. Why you may asked, well mainly because he is not pushing the chaos and armageddon agenda of the neocons, instead he tries to make stronger alliances with turkey because as you should know the grand game is all about who will control central asia, and the only option for the us (beside the armageddon option of the neocon with provoking a third WW) to get acces into central asia, which is mainly populated and governed by turks is via turkeys alliance. but thanks to your christian fundemantalist zionist neocon devvil worshippers they have weakend him so much that he could not win over turkey as he did in his first term. And now turkey is turning east which will bring an end to the imperium americanum which in turn will lead to that # hits the fan in america and you and all of your crazy gunwielding budys will proudly show the world how good of an extremist terrorist christians can turn into whiich in turn will further their agenda of discrediting every religion.



posted on Jan, 15 2015 @ 11:55 PM
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Really? Its too late so I'll spare the usual wordy reply but really. No Obama is not some covert Sunni Muslim. He is a puppet working for the same banking cartels that they are all beholden to. Of course he is giving support to ISIS. Its called geopolitics. After Russia ruined his masters plans for a Syria campaign plan B was ramped up. This is laying the ground work for regime change in Syria and I fear soon an attack will occur on U.S. soil, especially with the happenings in France and Belgium. If that happens the potential to launch a ground invasion to "destroy ISIS" in Syria and Iraq. The ramifications of Syrian regime change are far reaching affecting Iran, Russia, Lebanon and others. Also don't forget about that Syrian pipeline deal that isn't happening at the moment.

Were conservative luminaries Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, the men who covertly funded the rise of the Taliban and Am Qaeda Sunni Salafists? Of course not. They worship(ed) Power and Money, some might call that the devil. The US has been financing radical Islam and the Brotherhood since the close of WWII and Germany prior to that. I hate to break it to you but these are historical facts. The idea that Obama is some covert Muslim infiltrator is a wacko theory. Maybe he wasn't a US citizen. Even if that were true it does not matter. THEY decide who were ALLOWED to vote for and THEY choose Barrack Hussein Obama.



posted on Jan, 16 2015 @ 12:53 AM
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For all who believe the crapola posted page after page in this thread, I suggest a foil helmet of freedom!



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