a reply to: neformore
Disclaimer : This post is topical satire. Its aimed at trying to stimulate some deeper thinking on a particular subject. Its not meant as a slight
against anyone personally. Its a parallel. I can guarantee that probably 50% of the posters who reply to this OP will not read this disclaimer.
Read the disclaimer. Which means the vast majority of the OP is not worth responding to as it isn't a serious topic.
So I will respond to the premise.
Islam is not like other religions and Islamic people are not like other religious people. In the Middle East, where I have spent some time, Islamic
conservatism is the primary ideological basis of belief.
The core of Islamic Extremism is a minority. But they are enabled by the beliefs of the conservative majority of Islamic extremism. The majority of
Muslims believe that death for apostasy, homosexuality, adultery, and a whole host of other offenses should be punishable by death.
They do not believe in freedom of speech. They do not believe in freedom of association. They are heavily and extremely paternalistic. Equality of the
sexes is a completely foreign concept. All of the things that make up the core values of western civilization are an affront to the majority
conservative Islamic world view. This is something people need to learn and accept. Trying to view the Islamic world through a western lens is stupid.
In the ME, what we would term "radicalism" isn't always recognized as such. Many times it is seen as a facet of religiosity ever present in the
Mosque. There is no separation of Mosque and state as the laws of the land must be derived, by religious edict, from the Koran.
Tacit approval of terrorism not real. People in the Middle East either outright support terrorism or they don't. But even the ones who do NOT support
terrorism still hold to their conservative Islamic values which are NOT in line with Western notions of equality, liberty, and tolerance. This is
something people in the West simply cannot seem to comprehend.
Gun owners in America are made up of a diverse group of people. With 100 million or so, you're talking about men and women of all colors, religions
beliefs, and sexual orientations. The vast majority of those gun owners are not criminals who shoot places up. There is no ideological core that
drives the gun owning population to murder in the name of the Gun. There is no ideological center that enables criminal activity with a gun.
Criminality while using a firearm and religious extremism in the ME are not morally equivalent and cannot be logically viewed in the same light. I get
the whole notion of "Painting with a broad brush" premise of the thread, but it is simply a bad example to try to create an equivalence between a tool
and a centuries old ideological construct that is ingrained in a highly religious society.
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