Too Racist for UKIP; Rozanne Duncan problem with 'negroes' because 'something about their faces'

a reply to: Prezbo369

Well if said members spout such nonsense as 'open door immigration policy'

But...that is exactly what the European immigration policy is..it is literally an open door policy in regards to the European Union member countries.

Anyone from any of the member nations can get on a coach, an aircraft or a boat and arrive here in the UK, demand housing and after a month or so, full social security benefits, access to our overstretched healthcare system, places for their children in our increasingly overcrowded classrooms, undercut or domestic trades people vying for the scarce jobs, and all of the rest of it.

Anyone from the EU can come here, without so much as a by your leave. How can this be construed as anything other than what it is...a wide, gaping chasm of an open door policy?

Or has there been an announcement i've missed?

a reply to: Prezbo369

go look on universal job match. All minimum wage stuff for low skills. Care assistants for instance. No rise in 15 years. That's because of the wide labour pool.

Let's face it, you aren't into sources, your happy in your particular prejudice and unable to escape it.

Here's one source for you.
m.socialistparty.org.uk...

I suppose they are racists too.

a reply to: MysterX

I can't see the Police just contacting the council and getting the thief or thieves moved along.

Well you need to come live where am at..People need to wake..

1, When a girl is crying on you're street and she is asking me to come over to her to help her out. I don't think I best keep out of this.When I seen this man wave his fingers at me to go away in the top window, and the girl is saying to me that # their is mine on the floor of the living room, DAM right I taken the door off. the guy got a beating along with his brother or mate.. we dont ring the police when THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN..

i would have called the Police and had them deal with the whole thing..it's what they are there for after all.

[SNIPPED]

LOL if you lived in moston,manchester,uk you would be voting UKIP in a heart beat....

originally posted by: Prezbo369
UKIP are an inch away from being a Nazi party......all their members are racists desperately attempting to not sound like racists while spouting faulty and misleading information gathered from other far right sources such as The Daily Fail.

UKIP and it's members are an embarrassment to the UK, making it look like a cesspool filled with ignorance and bigotry.

The woman in question is just the tip of the iceberg, you can be sure that behind closed doors her attitude is representative for all UKIP members.

Sure UKIP are a vile and offensive and bigoted party... and many of their members & candidates are too.
But not everyone who votes UKIP thinks the same as UKIP or even agrees with UKIP on many of their policies and ideals.
Some people have very real and legitimate concerns about immigration and the strain on the NHS and wages being driven down etc so you cannot tar everyone who votes UKIP with the same brush... many (I hope) are voting for them out of frustration and to send a message to the Westminster elite that they'd better change their ways etc.

Having said that, UKIP and what they represent are vile.. an odious party run by an even more odious man and populated with cronies and racist and sexists and homophobes and by the very nature of the party, attracting candidates from the far right and with very questionable views... people with outdated and offensive views about the the way the world should be and how England was once great and Little Englanders.

I would never, EVER vote UKIP, they are pure scum in my mind and personally I don't think there is a good reason to vote for them... but that's the beauty of a democracy, everyone thinks and votes differently and people are fed up with the current political climate and with the bland, centre ground hogging 3 main parties.
I think some people would get a very nasty surprise if their beloved UKIP got in, it wouldn't be quite as great as they think.

You need to separate the Party and its members and candidates from the ordinary public who are just venting their frustrations though, you cannot tar all with the same brush.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Prezbo369

go look on universal job match. All minimum wage stuff for low skills. Care assistants for instance. No rise in 15 years. That's because of the wide labour pool.

Let's face it, you aren't into sources, your happy in your particular prejudice and unable to escape it.

Ah so its all made up....

You've not provided a single source for your claims, this would've been the third time asking.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Prezbo369 You are part of the problem. If something doesn't fit your narrative you just wad up your panties and shriek "bigot".

Its easy for them to do so.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Here's one source for you.
m.socialistparty.org.uk...

I suppose they are racists too.

Lol yeah

That people will work for pennies isn't a demonstrative of the list of horrors you made.

originally posted by: blupblup

originally posted by: Prezbo369
UKIP are an inch away from being a Nazi party......all their members are racists desperately attempting to not sound like racists while spouting faulty and misleading information gathered from other far right sources such as The Daily Fail.

UKIP and it's members are an embarrassment to the UK, making it look like a cesspool filled with ignorance and bigotry.

The woman in question is just the tip of the iceberg, you can be sure that behind closed doors her attitude is representative for all UKIP members.

Sure UKIP are a vile and offensive and bigoted party... and many of their members & candidates are too.
But not everyone who votes UKIP thinks the same as UKIP or even agrees with UKIP on many of their policies and ideals.
Some people have very real and legitimate concerns about immigration and the strain on the NHS and wages being driven down etc so you cannot tar everyone who votes UKIP with the same brush... many (I hope) are voting for them out of frustration and to send a message to the Westminster elite that they'd better change their ways etc.

Having said that, UKIP and what they represent are vile.. an odious party run by an even more odious man and populated with cronies and racist and sexists and homophobes and by the very nature of the party, attracting candidates from the far right and with very questionable views... people with outdated and offensive views about the the way the world should be and how England was once great and Little Englanders.

I would never, EVER vote UKIP, they are pure scum in my mind and personally I don't think there is a good reason to vote for them... but that's the beauty of a democracy, everyone thinks and votes differently and people are few up with the current political climate and with the bland, centre ground hogging 3 main parties.
I think some people would get a very nasty surprise if their beloved UKIP got in, it wouldn't be quite as great as they think.

You need to separate the Party and its members and candidates from the ordinary public who are just venting their frustrations though, you cannot tar all with the same brush.

lol SO YOU HOPE many vote for UKIP to get in and chance the ways of the government but you wouldn't make change yourself and vote....lol

sounds soooo right


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a reply to: Prezbo369

Well if said members spout such nonsense as 'open door immigration policy'.....

Please explain your statement.
Are you trying to say there hasn't been an 'open door immigration policy'?

Rather than just say something is 'nonsense' please explain exactly how and / or why it is nonsense.

All you seem to be doing is spouting empty political rhetoric and dogma with zero substance to support your claim that all UKIP supporters are 'racist' and that UKIP itself is 'an inch away from being a Nazi Party'.

Show exactly how UKIP compares to Nazi's.

......and denigrate membership in the EU as a matter of course,

Why?
Is the EU such a sacred entity that it is above criticism?
Why can't people express their dislike and distrust of the EU?

Whether you like it or not there is growing concern over the UK's continued membership of the EU and many, many people would like to see a full and open public debate on the merits and drawbacks of EU membership followed by a legally binding referendum on the subject.

What exactly is wrong with that?

..... then yeah I'm fairly comfortable with labeling them as such.

And that Sir says far more about you than it does anyone else.

It's more of a case of not indulging people in these kind of rhetoric as they only serve to give the ignorant and the hateful a platform to rant on.

What gives you or anyone else the right to set the political agenda?
Why is your opinion any more valuable or noteworthy than those who you arrogantly deem 'ignorant' and 'hateful'?

It seems to me that you are the one who seeks to impose your values on others and limit peoples right to free speech etc.

I put it to you that you are the one who is the very embodiment of the term 'BIGOT'.

bigot

/ˈbɪɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

www.google.co.uk...=bigot

a reply to: Prezbo369
Told you. Just a closed minded bigot aren't you?

Ask for a source outlining the problem, I give you one and suddenly it doesn't count. I could show you a thousand such sources and know that you'd dismiss each out of hand.

Your lack of empathy for others is why you fit so well in the liblabcon sphere.

originally posted by: RayVon

lol SO YOU HOPE many vote for UKIP to get in and chance the ways of the government but you wouldn't make change yourself and vote....lol

sounds soooo right


BACK TO BAT CAVE FOR YOU

I hope NOBODY votes for UKIP, pretty sure I made that clear.
But the people that are voting for them, I hope many of those people are voting as a protest and not because they really are bigots, racists, homophobes and so on

Is that clear?

People probably write one-word sentences in the UKIP comments pages, I do apologise.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Prezbo369
Told you. Just a closed minded bigot aren't you?

Ask for a source outlining the problem, I give you one and suddenly it doesn't count. I could show you a thousand such sources and know that you'd dismiss each out of hand.

Your lack of empathy for others is why you fit so well in the liblabcon sphere.

DAM!!

I live Sunday afternoons on ATS:

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: Prezbo369

But...that is exactly what the European immigration policy is..it is literally an open door policy in regards to the European Union member countries.

Anyone from any of the member nations can get on a coach, an aircraft or a boat and arrive here in the UK, demand housing and after a month or so, full social security benefits, access to our overstretched healthcare system, places for their children in our increasingly overcrowded classrooms, undercut or domestic trades people vying for the scarce jobs, and all of the rest of it.

Anyone from the EU can come here, without so much as a by your leave. How can this be construed as anything other than what it is...a wide, gaping chasm of an open door policy?

Or has there been an announcement i've missed?

That's not open door though is it? open door gives the impression that literally anyone can enter the country from any other country from throughout the world. You say open door immigration policy and you attract the unsavory types.....

Besides, the UK has far more good old English salt of the earth types emigrating than we have foreign folk immigrating.

It's all smoke and mirrors designed to get these types wound up enough to vote UKIP/BNP w/e.

And it works all to easily.

originally posted by: blupblup

originally posted by: RayVon

lol SO YOU HOPE many vote for UKIP to get in and chance the ways of the government but you wouldn't make change yourself and vote....lol

sounds soooo right


BACK TO BAT CAVE FOR YOU

I hope NOBODY votes for UKIP, pretty sure I made that clear.
But the people that are voting for them, I hope many of those people are voting as a protest and not because they really are bigots, racists, homophobes and so on

Is that clear?

People probably write one-word sentences in the UKIP comments pages, I do apologise.

apologies Not needed.

You need to read over post again son...

Regards about one word comments..where,why,when

You clearly want UKIP in and you hope that many do vote as to show the government "what for"
Make change yourself......coward.

a reply to: RayVon
Passes the time while dinner is cooking sure enough.

originally posted by: RayVon

apologies Not needed.

You need to read over post again son...

Regards about one word comments..where,why,when

You clearly want UKIP in and you hope that many do vote as to show the government "what for"
Make change yourself......coward.

Ahh gotcha, you're a troll.



Thanks for saving me the time of trying to actually have a debate.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Prezbo369
Told you. Just a closed minded bigot aren't you?

Yes you told me.....what?

And those words don't mean what you think they mean...

Ask for a source outlining the problem, I give you one and suddenly it doesn't count. I could show you a thousand such sources and know that you'd dismiss each out of hand.

I asked for an official source for your claims:

It hasn't ruined mine, but it has depressed wages for hundreds of thousands of workers, drained our welfare system of funds, adversely impacted state schooling and the NHS. Blocked social housing and kept rents artificially high and many other things.

And you supply a single link to a webpage about people desperate enough to work for almost nothing in a single location.

See this is how the wool is pulled over your eyes by the tabloids. Give them a single story and suddenly the country is being ruined and good folk like yourself have had their lives ruined.

Your lack of empathy for others is why you fit so well in the liblabcon sphere.

LOL now there's a belly laugh holy crap

UKIP members are all about compassion lol

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: RayVon
Passes the time while dinner is cooking sure enough.

LOL.True

This is my sport, HITTING TROLLS OUT OF THE PARK. since 1981.

originally posted by: RayVon

DAM!!

I live Sunday afternoons on ATS:

Beavers make dams....