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New Twist: Charlie Hebdo Police Investigator Turns Up Dead, ‘Suicided’

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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

According to this news article, it was Helric Fredou himself, that found his dead colleague, which also shot himself:

Using Google translate...

PJ investigators are stunned by the news, their precinct that experienced exactly the same episode there is a little over a year, in November 2013. The number 3 of the PJ, also aged 44, s' was sitting at his desk and was shot in the head. This father had left a letter in which he said "not [to] feel up to [his] duties." It was then Helric Fredou who discovered his dead colleague. SRPJ the investigators were there two years mentioned in off a "terrible" atmosphere and "profound difficulties with the hierarchy." But the investigation had stopped there. The floor of Limoges had found a suicide no direct link with the work. Unlike his colleague, Helric Fredou did not leave letter explaining his actions. Pascal Cayla, representative of the Alliance union, acknowledged that everyone was "shot" at the police: "It was a very human and close to people.


Very bizarre to say at least ...
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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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What a coincidence. Maybe violence is contagious?



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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Imagine the pressure those officers must be under; one or more families have relatives that have been killed in gruesome ways and want revenge or justice seen to be done; another group of families have relatives that are suspected or known to have been involved and they claim innocence and persecution. On top of both of those, you will have human rights activists, religious campaigners and politicians all trying to push their agendas. Push the case in any direction and half the crowd will scream "racism".

I just hope those families didn't invite him to smoke any Hookah pipes. A guy in my research lab did that and died that night.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:07 AM
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I wonder about this to. But my point of investigation is this; who (or which security agency) withold data about
this upcoming terrorist act, if they had data about it and why did they let it happened. We often turn to counter-intel agencies
for answers. But what if they knew and did nothing? Saving life and sacrificing others always hangs in the balance of the Higher ups. But what if they went by the logic that a tragedy like this, against freedom of speach and ending in 20 or so deaths, is worth happening to manipulate the masses fear and turn population into integrist hunters? Hence suggesting enforcement by the people instead of the security forces.

Or what if the russian spys had the info about this cell(through secret channels bewteen the syrian-russian treaty) but witheld it to get revenge against the G20 adversity towards the russian/ukraine conflict?

I never really believed about the Sandy Hook shooting false flag, until that Nertherland flight got shot down and crashed in Ukraine AND was filled with frozen corpse apparently dead months ago. And what about the odd crash scene. This mystery went under the rug. But as I watched those family members mourns in Amsterdam, for the first time ever, I thought these people could be hired agents mourning for false victims and then I started doubting about false flags terror act.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:19 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I will say it again what are the odds the French leadership would put a mentally unstable officer on one of the biggest cases in the history of France..............It would not happen. They would want only the top tier officers handling this for obvious reasons.


No its not!

Depression does not make one "mentally unstable"

I have worked with loads of people who have depression or have had at some point in their lifes,

your attitude is why mental health gets such bad stigma.

1 in4 of us will have a mental health issue at some point, thats 1 in 4 of the entire population, society would stop working if we said that 1 in 4 people could not hold certain jobs because they have depression or some other mental illness.

Its not like he was a paranoid schizophrenic in the middle of having a total break down as they assigned him the job. He was depressed, he had a very stressful job, probably half the guys in his office had depression.






Having a mental issue does not make you unstable.........Really. Listen everyone has some kind of issue it comes down to how bad it is. Depression can be downright horrible and can effect job life as well as home life.



Imagine if this cop was a football player and had a injured knee and was not playing at 100%. If I said the football player was not physically fit for playing would you be saying the same things...........
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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

I mean for any of those who are actually hearing the MSM script on this and buying it, you may seriously wish to question your critical thinking abilities!

I was on the fence about the tragedy that is the Charlie Hebdo being a false flag and this right here has pushed me to the other side.

I would like to be clear, I do believe that people died and it is indeed tragic, however I do not buy the whole "fundamental islamic threat" crap, this is the part that I do believe was scripted.

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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 03:53 AM
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Helric Fredou was involved in the investigation of the Charlie Hebdo murders and had been assigned to investigate one of the victims family.
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Sounds like a liaison job to me rather than any important investigation. A shame rather than sinister as his minor ( Hidden ) depression may have become major when dealing with grieving relatives. Lets hope that further terrorists actions can be thwarted before damage can be done as sometimes happens already. Also improved security on the most likely targets would help . False flag "Ha Ha" from me. Also noticed a few anarchists popping in on these recent terrorist related threads and they will not mind if no security and more chaos ( Sad) .



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: Dabrazzo
Probably uncovered something he shouldnt have, like....oh I dunno, it was a staged attack by NATO?


How was it staged? Funded by a nato country ok but the terrorists were sold on the idea of radical islam.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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This is the first report I have seen in the MSM in the U.K.

www.mirror.co.uk...



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

I mean for any of those who are actually hearing the MSM script on this and buying it, you may seriously wish to question your critical thinking abilities!

I was on the fence about the tragedy that is the Charlie Hebdo being a false flag and this right here has pushed me to the other side.

I would like to be clear, I do believe that people died and it is indeed tragic, however I do not buy the whole "fundamental islamic threat" crap, this is the part that I do believe was scripted.


So when's the last time you visited Europe ?

It's very real. I've both seen and experienced it first hand.


The unfortunate reality is there's nothing uncommon about a police suicide. These guys are under high pressure, they deal with crappy situations on a daily basis, and honestly with the way France is going, I'm sure a lot of police there don't feel like their country has a bright future.

I was a medic many years ago, and one thing you have to come to terms with is this: You can't help everybody, you can't fix the world. You often feel a lot of expectation and hold yourself impossible standards. Sometimes despite doing an excellent job, things go to crap. I think police deal with this even more because they are less able to affect the outcome for the people they interact with. Police also have their hands tied in many situations, and it's frustrating for them.




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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:48 PM
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Well Jenny, I have never been to Europe however I fail to see the relevance of that to my post.

Also what exactly is it that you think I do not believe is real?

If it is that police officers sadly commite suicid, of that I have no doubt.

However I simply find it more believeable that he found something that he should not have, but this is also because I find the whole tragic situation suspicious, this is simply icing on the cake.
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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 07:50 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 09:02 PM
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Aàaaaand here goes ats again. Just making up conspiracy theories with no regard to decency.
I like how people insist 'it doesn't feel right' like you are all experts on human behavior.



posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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I'll direct interested persons to Radio Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis which this is the topic right now.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 02:22 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: SubTruth

His position of responsibility might have made him increasingly secretive about depression. Also a lot of males who become depressed don't realise they are either. I can think of several reasonable explanations why he opted for suicide. Until the inquest, we can't even be certain that the suicide is related to the Hebdo case.

The French press are reporting historical depression whereas the conspiracy-minded sites and some English news sites are implying it was ongoing depression. As far as I can tell through the French sites, there was no awareness of present depression.

I have to say that 'false flag' or suicided aren't likely causes of his death in my opinion. It's inevitable that others will believe otherwise and that's part of life too.


What you are basically saying is that everyone knew he was very depressed before this event Accept him self, and they still let him lead the investigation?

Mmmm i dont think so. Because that dosent make sence. And it sure aint good for the authoreties to put a person like that into a situation like this. Because now, this will raise even more questions about the capability and reliability of the police force. It just dosent add up that a Professional force would have a person they knew was depressed runing the show.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 02:41 AM
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originally posted by: TsukiLunar
Aàaaaand here goes ats again. Just making up conspiracy theories with no regard to decency.
I like how people insist 'it doesn't feel right' like you are all experts on human behavior.


Well if this aint human behaviour what is?

And why is it tabo to ask questions and wanting real answers. To me that is caring and showing real respect to the victims.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 08:42 AM
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How fishy is it? Somebody with first hand knowledge out there?

My Questions:
-Is it normal that a criminal investigator meets the family of a vitim just hours later? Arent they under shock not fit for interrogation. Looked after by some special psychology team? Specially in a case like this where a personal connection is very unlikely. Specially as they found the passport of a terrorist in an abandoned car, thats a fishy point on itself.
-Were the terrorists names already out, the story already set up at the time, could he have known something if it was a false flag?
-If he was still in danger of being depressive, most people really get over such phase, why was he put in such position, that doesnt make sense.

On the other hand. I dont see anything dangerous for a possible conspiracy that he could have possessed at this early stage. But than maybe it was just a sign for somebody else?

Thats what i like about conspiracytheories usually they never get disclosed and most of them are wrong, however could never be proven wrong.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: TsukiLunar
Aàaaaand here goes ats again. Just making up conspiracy theories with no regard to decency.
I like how people insist 'it doesn't feel right' like you are all experts on human behavior.


No regard to decency?

i don't think anyone has demonstrated indecency in this thread. Just trying to make sense out of what has been happening in Paris and why, if Helric Fredou was diagnosed as suffering from depression and burnout, he was put in such a vulnerable position.

If there is any conspiracy here, the decent thing to do would be to expose it.



posted on Jan, 13 2015 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: Dabrazzo
Probably uncovered something he shouldnt have, like....oh I dunno, it was a staged attack by NATO?



Quite a grand claim you got there. Do you have any sort of non tinfoil hat and non western sources to back this claim up?



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