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New Twist: Charlie Hebdo Police Investigator Turns Up Dead, ‘Suicided’

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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:04 AM
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According to 'Le Parisien', Helric Fredou waited the return of his team from Châteauroux for a debriefing, then used his service gun on himself around 01:00.

Previously while chief of sûreté at Limoges, he had a severe bout of depression. He had his service weapon removed during this time.

Nearly one year ago, in november 2013, Helric Fredou was the one who made the discovery of the suicide of the number 3 in similar circumstance.

It is reported that previously, investigating officers of SRPJ mentionned very bad atmosphere and deep problems with hierarchy.




posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:07 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
He had severe depression. The stress and the horror of what happened could easily have pushed him past the edge into suicide. I see no conspiracy here and I highly doubt he was murdered. Let this be a learning lesson about how much people with depression suffer unseen from the rest of society.


So he suffered with severe depression, his department seemed to have this documented, yet was given the task of heading up such a high profile case. If that is the case, then his superiors have his death on their hands. No note left, maybe because he was single and had no children, yet very quickly explained because of his history of depression.

Why allow him to carry on in his role? Why allow him to carry a gun? Either way, there has been a massive failing and there have been plenty of them in Paris this week.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: Dabrazzo

I still have doubts that David Kelly committed suicide and feel his death is still to be fully unexplained , especially the testimony of the paramedics , I see the reasons that he would have been hit but see no reason for for silencing Commissioner Fredou.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: gortex

Just one of those things man, could may well have been a case of suicide of course, but given the circumstances it does seem somewhat suspect.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:22 AM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978


Why allow him to carry on in his role? Why allow him to carry a gun? Either way, there has been a massive failing and there have been plenty of them in Paris this week.


Sometime the more "unstable" ones are also the most productive. I know personally couples police officers and detectives, and AFAIK it is not easy job on the psychological side. Suicide is not uncommon there. These peoples view themself as a big family and won't "expell" one of theirs own just due to personal problems... In fact if it was to be done "by the book", maybe most of them would be "off-duties".



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

It seems suicide is a problem in France and the gendarmerie are no exception.

The French are semi-obsessed by suicide and their press regularly highlight spates of suicide in specific population groups. One of the better known of these stories involved the string of suicides at France Télécom in which over 60 of the company's employees committed suicide between 2008 and 2011.
Oddly enough though, although that rate was not much higher than the national average in statistical terms it still caused a lot of concern and led to countless press articles. Another long-running story has been that of suicide within the police and gendarmerie, which seems to be relatively common, and I remember reading a few months ago that 3 policemen had killed themselves in less than a week in Paris alone. The teaching profession has also been a recurrent source of suicide stories.
undertheburningbridge.blogspot.co.uk...


Suicide rates in France


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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Maybe it's as simple as this: A lot of us just don't really want to live in this f*cked up, worse-every-day world anymore.



Occam's razor my friend. A lot of police are just completely disenfranchised with humanity these days.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: Dabrazzo

Cheers for the link man..


Jigsaw's starting to come together nicely.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 08:11 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
That's patently false, you cant be in the army or police force (anything involving firearms) if you are clinically depressed. Let alone, at the top.

By definition a psychological disorder interrupts life function (hence disorder). If one can function fine, then its not a psychological disorder. I think the problem is in people mixing up clinical depression and normal reactionary depression.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 08:16 AM
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That's patently false, you cant be in the army or police force (anything involving firearms) if you are clinically depressed. Let alone, at the top.


Got any links that prove in France you cannot legally be a police officer if you develop depression.

I am sure that as part of a medical upon entry into the force it is something that is considered but this guy was a serving officer.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Okay you got me there, I have no certainty about France, other than that I suspect it would follow suit in every NATO country (or well, western country)

I dont know if id be able to find the old RCMP forms but they ask questions like "have you been clinically depressed within the last 3 years?" and "have you ever been diagnosed with a condition which interfered with your duty?" In the background investigation they go through any medical and psychological records you may have



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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Suicide in France is more common than anywhere outside of former Eastern bloc Europe except Finland and Belgium.[1] The overall suicide rate is 14.6 per 100,000 people[1]—well above the rate in Britain and a 40% higher rate than Germany and the US. The suicide rate for French men is 22.8 per 100,000—three times the rate for women, 7.5 per 100,000.[1]

Suicides at France Telecom captured media attention in 2009, and were blamed on the restructuring in the wake of its privatisation.[2]

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Apparently suicide amongst the police is a big problem in France


French police in crisis as suicide rate spirals

With the number of suicides in the French police in 2014 passing 50 on Friday the government is under pressure to deal with a growing crisis. The Local asks a police union chief what is pushing so many officers to end their lives.

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That's weird and sad at the same time, imho.

I still find the "suicide" of Helric Fredou very suspicious, since no MSM outlet have reported anything on this yet.
It seems they want this to just go away..



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 10:53 AM
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The higher suicide rate between policemen might be explainable by them owning guns. In European countries weapons are not allowed, except for with specific certificates.
Who wouldn't have killed himself if he had the chance before nowadays?
It's not as easy as it sounds to suicide. Medicine which was successfully used for suicide for example is forbidden or was changed / only handed out in uncritical amounts afterwards.

Does the big controlled media mention the dead investigator, too or just this site?
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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky they mention him having bouts of severe depression.



of course they do.



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 12:55 PM
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As Daniel Estulin, ex FSB, counter intelligence said:
In the world of espionage coincidences dont exist.

Whats the posibility, in statistical terms, of this happening?

This will receive the same "investigatión" that the lady Di accident received...


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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I will say it again what are the odds the French leadership would put a mentally unstable officer on one of the biggest cases in the history of France..............It would not happen. They would want only the top tier officers handling this for obvious reasons.


I agree, this seems highly suspicous. If they knew he was prone to bouts of depression, why assign him to such a high profile case?



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I will say it again what are the odds the French leadership would put a mentally unstable officer on one of the biggest cases in the history of France..............It would not happen. They would want only the top tier officers handling this for obvious reasons.


yeah, now days when there are big cases and controversial ones, I get suspicious when someone commits suicide. However, logic tells us probably most are actual suicides, but which ones are not?



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978


As the dust settles from this week’s terror extravaganza in France, more loose ends are turning up (or being tied up), with this latest bizarre bombshell which is already fueling speculation as to the covert nature of the Charlie Hebdo false flag affair.

At the time of his death, police claim to have not known the reason for his alleged suicide. This was reflected in their official statements to the media: “It is unknown at this time the reasons for his actions”. However, a back story appears to have been inserted simultaneously, most likely from the very same police media liaisons, who then told the press that Fredou was ‘depressed and overworked’. For any law enforcement officer in France, it would seem rather odd that anyone would want to miss the biggest single terror event the century, or history in the making, as it were.


New Twist: Charlie Hebdo Police Investigator Turns Up Dead, ‘Suicided’

I don't know how relevant this is to the overall picture developing in Paris, but this is certainly a strange case.

Helric Fredou was involved in the investigation of the Charlie Hebdo murders and had been assigned to investigate one of the victims family. Apparently he then went back to the police hotel and shot himself before completing the report. He didn't leave a note or anything to suggest why he decided to end his own life, but the authorities are blaming depression and burnout.

In November 2013, a similar event occurred when another SRPJ investigator committed suicide, but on that occasion a note was left and 'personal reasons' were cited.

It'so not being reported in the MSM for some reason, but there is a link to the original report (in French) in the article.

So, coincidence or something more sinister?


Flip side of your position: why would anybody who's already on the knife's edge want to endure the biggest current story in the world?



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:42 PM
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I don't claim to know what happened, but at the least there should be a decent amount of skepticism here. This doesn't pass the sniff test, it seems that even if he had a history of severe depression the adrenaline rush from being in charge of such a high profile case would be a reason to live, not a reason to put a bullet in your head. The guy reached the pinnacle of his career, near celebrity status for a cop and he's going to take him self out? I don't think so!



posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 01:45 PM
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It's like if Robin Williams had just been nominated for an Oscar and he kills himself, it would have been much more controversial.



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