Was the French Attack a False Flag???

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Sorry to sound niave but is the same video that was pulled before?

I do not wish to sound idiotic but I am inclined to agree that the shot was missed, granted the melon thing is pointless but maybe I missed something?

it does pose an interesting point, do you know of any gun and ammo members who would be able to help with this?

a reply to: Tardacus

How could the media get so many things so wrong?

If the MSM operates from a script, then maybe it's not really "wrong".

a reply to: Phatdamage

I think it has been discussed but as a non gun person
I personally felt it was not needed to illustrate a point.

I am pretty sure the guy continues to curl up after the shot but thats just me.

a reply to: gortex

i did hear something interesting on the news today, saying that the media information came around because the police gave no information away and what was reported was from a media point of view and not the 'True' event,

but that being said, the information still isn't being cleared up, could this be part of a script?

a reply to: Phatdamage

Rush Limbaugh reported the first two Police Officers showed-up riding bicycles un-armed...per socialist government policy.

Then this scene insues.

Impossible for "false flag" actors to "ride" to the scene.

a reply to: xuenchen

The MSM works on a monitary system were stories sell and the first to get there wins.

That is different from telling the story as it is.

ATS works differently, we take what they say and try like buggery to prove it wrong.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle ground.

a reply to: Phatdamage

but that being said, the information still isn't being cleared up, could this be part of a script?

Or could it be that the police are only releasing the information they want to release and it's still early days in this investigation ?

no

originally posted by: Tardacus
The amount of mis-information that was reported by the media while this was unfolding is incomprehensible.
Was the media deliberately being fed false info or was the media just reporting rumors without any regard for the truth and no attempt to verify the info?
It wasn`t just small details that they were getting wrong, they were reporting things that had no resemblance to what was actually happening.

The "third shooter", which never appeared in any of the videos, that was being reported was actually not involved at all and was no where near the scene of the shootings.

The girlfriend who was with the guy when he killed the cop and was in the market with him is now being reported to not even have been in the country at the time.

One of the shooters was killed and the other 2 were captured, again that is nothing close to what was happening,it never happened.

How could the media get so many things so wrong?
It sounds like there was complete chaos for 3 days and nobody,including the police, knew what the heck was actually happening.
It`s like some bad keystone cops movie, it`s a miracle that they got the guys before more people were killed.

Two words - cognitive dissonance.

Disinformation is deliberate as it keeps the masses confused about what is really happening.

a reply to: NeoSpace

No to who or what?

Or just simply no?

I do not mind as I am sure others do not but a simple frame of reference would give cause for rational response.

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Phatdamage

I think it has been discussed but as a non gun person
I personally felt it was not needed to illustrate a point.

I am pretty sure the guy continues to curl up after the shot but thats just me.

He keeps curling up from the noise and from fear maybe.

a reply to: gortex

yes, but if that is the case why release the info on the ID almost straight away?

a reply to: Phatdamage

Perhaps as confirmation that they knew who they were looking for , it served their purpose.

Maybe, I have never been shot in the head before, As I said it looks like he is curling up as opposed to bieng shot in the face but maybe someone can explain it.

a reply to: xuenchen

No

The Union Jack Is a False Flag
People refer to the Union Jack in false terms continually .

It is called the Flag of the Union.

Only correct time to call it a Union Jack Is when It is a flown on a H M N Ship.

a reply to: Phatdamage

Saturday is gym day so I was looking for my sneakers. Theyd vanished. Just gone like POOF!! Nowhere could i find them. So obviously a false flag. Started to write a thread about it coz I've been reading literally millions of conspiracy stories and TPTB might be warning me off. Turned out the cat dragged them out the back yard.

Theyre all wet because it was raining at the time. Bummed out big time

What I'm saying here is stuff has obvious ockhams razor answers most of the time,

The poor bastards at Hebdo were murdered by assholes. No mysterys and no false flags. Check your history for censoring free press, printing presses and pampleteers. hundreds of years of guys like these being killed for poking the extremists.

a reply to: Phatdamage

I have watched the video about twenty times. I have to agree that the shot appears to miss. This leads me to think that this officer did not die from that shot. Either the gun man missed on purpose , just to scare him, or it was a genuine miss and he either did not notice the miss or did not have time to take another shot.

It might not be the fault of the authorities. This could be media spreading like a Chinese whisper; an image to match a story, when the image and the story relate to two separate incidents.

Does anybody know of any official version saying what this video footage represents? I do not. I have only heard media sources say this.

EDIT; I don't think it was a false flag. Those people have really died. I am more thinking, if this is a miss, then it is just a mismatching of image and narrative.

it seems to me that France will have many more opportunities to perfect the Police release of facts concerning hostage situations going forward in the future...

The French Command base was overwhelmed in this ever escalating crisis which developed into 2 separate hostage situations by radical terrorists who had support from Muslim Clerics and the silence of the Muslim community to these criminal acts on the country which had offered all their ex-patriot family/friends/community a chance of a fresh start in a peaceful land far from the war-torn country of origin...

how many more episodes of this nature will transpire before the backlash begins?
it is highly likely that radicalized Muslims conducting a rampage on their host country will compel the native population to drastic responses....vigilante paybacks that might target the offenders and the 3 generations forward and 3 generations historically of that family tree... a complete destruction of that line of 'bad seeds'


~wisegeek.com~
"When someone goes outside the law to mete out a punishment for a crime, this is termed vigilante justice. The people involved in this type of justice are not qualified members of the judicial community, and they may break the law in the course of pursuing “justice.” People engage in this activity for a wide variety of reasons, ranging from perceived inactivity on the part of law enforcement to personal experiences, and many nations have very strict laws about vigilantism."

This is a good piece to consider " By Pepe Escobar

January 10, 2015 "ICH" - "Asia Times"- Putin did it. Sorry, he didn't. In the end, it was not Russia "aggression" that attacked the heart of Europe. It was a pro-style jihadi commando. Cui bono?

Careful planning and preparation; Kalashnikovs; rocket-propelled grenade launcher; balaclavas; sand-colored ammunition vest stuffed with spare magazines; army boots; piece of cake escape in a black Citroen. And the icing on the lethal cake; faultless Paris-based logistical support to pull that off. A former top French military commander, Frederic Gallois, has stressed the perfect application of "urban guerrilla technique" (where are those notorious Western counter-terrorism "experts" when one needs them?)

They might have spoken perfect French; others said it was broken French. Anyway, what matters is that they uttered the magic word; "We're al-Qaeda." Better yet; they told a man in the street, "Tell the media that this is al-Qaeda in Yemen", which means, in American terror terminology, al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula (AQAP), which had Charlie Hebdo's editor/cartoonist Stephane Charbonnier ("Charb") on a hit list duly promoted by AQAP's glossy magazine Inspire. Accusation: "Insulting the Prophet Mohammed."

And just to make sure everyone had the perpetrators implanted on their brain, the killers also said, "Allahu Akbar"; "We have killed Charlie Hebdo"; and "We have avenged the Prophet."

Case closed? " the rest is worth reading www.informationclearinghouse.info... a reply to: Phatdamage

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: xuenchen

Could you elaborate on your question please.

It seems to vauge to postulate any kind of hypothosis?

Sure.

If the official blame is on Muslims, and if this was a false flag, then who did the actual attack if Muslims didn't?

In other words, who gains either way?

The rhetoric I am hearing on the MSM is certainly pointing towards an attack on Syria! Perhaps with what happened in France, the globalists will have more support this time around?

Yes, totally agree. I first heard the rhetoric Thursday evening and I just can't see the connection to Syria. If they do attack Syria, it just wouldn't make sense, as Syria are fighting against the same group these murderers are associated with.