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Denounce and expose all the hoax channels on Youtube

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posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 02:58 PM
I enjoy watching a lot of YouTube videos mostly for music and aviation stuff but every now and then I like to watch more ATS appropriate material and I was wondering about two channels and thought this would be a good place to ask(Sirius Disclosure and darkjournalist). also at the same time would it be too much to list more reputable channels to watch?

posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 03:59 PM

originally posted by: crayzeed
I seriously think you're on a losing battle there. OK name the hoaxers but then once the hoaxer knows what's been done they will just register under another name.

Well, that's what they already do for years and it's kind of amusing to see how they resurrect and how each time they are quickly detected for what they are, i-e hoaxers.
The difference with this topic is that everyone that have even a bit of doubt about the validity of any YT video, will just have to search for the channel name in the ATS search engine to come here, so he can think twice before posting it.
Of course, you can say that not everyone even think to use the search engine, but be sure that there's enough smart ATS members that will now better know this black list and refer to it.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Now even direct posters on ATS with their videos could be hoaxes with today's technology it is harder and harder to expose hoaxes.

I'm not that sure, there are very talented people, such as "Hoaxkiller1" and "WeAreOne" that are able to detect to expose them. Moreover, most ATSers here simply use their common sense and logic.

originally posted by: crayzeed
There may be a few on here who could expose a hoax but the vast majority on ATS could not. When it comes down to the bottom line you have to view the video to prove it's a hoax.

Well, without doing any deep analysis, there are some basics things to know, strong clues in a YT video that immediately raise a red flag prior:
- Lots of publicity ("go to my other channel here" ... "please subscribe"...):

- Weird/scary music in the background, the more impressive the more you captive attention ------> $$
- No story behind the video, no references, that could allow any UFO investigator to do a ground investigation... Fake video so fake witness.
- Big event that should logically be seen by lot of people (such as in my OP) but that, oddly have only one witness. So you see a ufo-like-meteor over California and you are the only witness and no other automated camera record it? All right...
- Deactivated comments in the YT video. I allow people to watch my amazing video but not to comment it. All right bis...
- Words such as "Amazing", "Incredible", ... The video is not that fantastic, but put an extraordinary word on will encourage people to look at it ------> $$.
- No audio on the video, or weird audio: the alleged UFO is doing incredible zig-zags all other the sky, but not a word from the witness.
I probably forgot some...

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posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 05:29 PM
a reply to: elevenaugust Great Thread!!

posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 05:36 PM
a reply to: elevenaugust

That would be everything on youtube, tv, radio, pictures and movies.

A hoax is a deliberately fabricated falsehood made to masquerade as truth.[1] It is distinguishable from errors in observation or judgment. The British philologist Robert Nares (1753–1829) says that the word hoax was coined in the late 18th century as a contraction of the verb hocus, which means "to cheat",[3] "to impose upon"[3] or "to befuddle often with drugged liquor".[4] Hocus is a shortening of the magic incantation hocus pocus,[4] whose origin is disputed.

Then there are the words NET, WEB, IT, and netFRAMEwork that are very obvious. Lexical Entrainment is fascinating once you can spot it for what it is.

posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 06:20 PM
Third Phase of the MOON is EXTREMELY persistant in spreading hoaxed UFOs.... almost as there is some agenda to discredit all UFO videos on the Web.... also, some big MSM media cited and quoted TPM videos, and it only adds to misleading general public on UFO topic....

posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 08:13 PM
a reply to: elevenaugust

Hi mate, great stuff and a very important list - this thread has also been added to the 'relevant top hoaxes' section of the chronological thread directory.

originally posted by: Springer

ETA: It occurs to me that these hoaxers aren't just making money from lying and cheating, they're doing the dirty work for any organization that may want to make sure the topic never gets taken too seriously.

Good point there and I don't think you're alone in suspecting that mate.

posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 08:59 PM
There are so many and I guess it would take a team 24/7 to find them all.

I even found a facebook site 'theabsolutetruth' about conspiracies that I didn't write, it appeared recently.

Perhaps some youtube hoaxers are even deliberately baiting ATS ers.

posted on Jan, 10 2015 @ 09:02 PM
a reply to: elevenaugust

Whats different between a Ufo site asking for money compared with site seeking money for clairvoyant sessions? Why Bann them when all you need to do is stop watching them and don't give them any money.

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 12:07 AM
a reply to: AthlonSavage

Google "click bait".

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 04:12 AM
a reply to: Granite

Disagree with including "Dutchsinse", he pushes TPTB on fracking impacts on Earth with real analysis that others are afraid to touch.
Why group him with UFO hoaxers?

Deny Ignorance?

You are absolutely correct. Dutchsinse is not a UFO hoax channel so I withdraw it from the list. Thanks for the correction.

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 05:11 AM
a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Perhaps some youtube hoaxers are even deliberately baiting ATS ers.

Yes, they are. Here is an historical example:

It had this follow up:

(Ahem, the original thread has never officially been moved to [HOAX!].)

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 05:57 AM
a reply to: elevenaugust
Thank you for answering my comments. I personally only watch you tube for entertainment and that is very, very rarely.

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:29 AM
i know one called - ADG - Alien Disclosure Group.

they seem to be skilled in cgi and are constantly releasing rubbish in attempts to decieve that its genuine

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 06:42 AM
Anyone consider making a site where people can post details on separate conspiracies with testable claims (rodin coil, anti-gravity, transmutation, etc) and have others post proof/disproof of them? With the plethora of bull# on YouTube and the inherent inability of most people to test every last one themselves it seems fitting of a community project.

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 12:50 PM
Alex Zionist Jones and Paul Joseph Watson.

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 02:21 PM
I abhor list makers.

Just analyze whatever is brought.

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 02:44 PM
There are just too many of them, its like playing whack a mole. You take one out and another takes its place. I use to debunk hoaxers religiously on YT years ago in league with other ATS members. If you ever heard of seeingUFOsPA and the "fake plane" cult. These hucksters would film planes at night with flir equipment in night vision and distort the objects passing them off as "fake planes" and "morphing orbs" lol. Eventually that whacky lady faded in to obscurity after many months of debunking and denouncing her tripe. Her gang of fake ufo zealots would try everything to have the debunk videos removed and pretty much did. sheilaaliens was one of her partners in crime. Kingufokid is another dandy hoaxer passing planes off as ET space ships and a vile troll to add. I must have been doing something right after receiving threats from these feaudsters.

This was before CGI hoax vids were in their inception. But I seen the shape of things to come. And the opportunities YT provided for charlatans. It was inevitable ufology on YouTube would become the cesspool of disinfo and fraud it is today. With doom cryers and fear porn to accommodate the hoaxers. It is one big tumor of adsense revenue.

Seems thirdphaseofmoon has watered down YouTube with a flood of so many cgi videos all I get in search results are Blake and his brothers elaborate ruse of click bait. They are like the wonder twins of hoaxing. Just the corny narrative from Blake Cousins is all too reduculous and makes me wonder if its scripted that way to make UFO gurus look bad.

Springer pretty much sumed it up perfectly. For a time ATS was quite effective and engaged in heated discussion sometimes involving the hucksters themselves and thier blind followers. You can add Jose Escamilla to the mix , he is pretty much washed up now thanks to ATS. The dome of the rock vgi hoax UFO deserves mention and the mastermind of hoaxing behind it whom I will not mention his name due to TOS for he does not deserve recognition. Let us not forget Sorcha Faal either, he was is a cancer and disservice to the topic in tandem with hoaxers alike. I can go on and on name dropping. Id be here all night

Knowing is half the battle

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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:30 PM
a reply to: Kandinsky

Dutchsince is a known hoaxer that does weather videos. Micheal Janitch was exposed on ATS a while back. However his target audience seem to remain clueless and are hoodwinked by his "weather predicting programs" . Dutchoven has aligned himself with other BS artists like Montagraph, Chrissy Sumer , Max Malone and other shills. They even pay for likes and views on YouTube using bots and sock puppets. That is a entire topic in itself.
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posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 03:36 PM
I will send them nightmares for all time.

And a couple probing sessions.

The hoaxers are just annoying. But they are going to crap themselves when E.T is on their doorstep looking for a little fun

posted on Jan, 11 2015 @ 04:01 PM

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Sounds to me like someone doesnt like we the people to have the freedom to post videos and have freedom of speech.

When our forefathers wrote the constitution I doubt they had frauds in mind. Freedom of speech is a slippery slope.

So you enjoy having your head in the sand by that logic ?

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