God is LOVE so everything else is illusion. My understanding of metaphysics as of now.

a reply to: arpgme

God is Truth. God is Love. Heaven is God's world and God is Truth so Heaven is the only reality and every other world is illusion, but the SPIRIT/LOVE is always real because that is what God is. When you die, only the SPIRIT/PURITY/Hot White Light/Love remains. The ego will eventually die because only The Spirit is eternal.

What is truth other than reality?
What is love other than a feeling?
Define heaven.
If this world is an illusion then where is the real one?
If God is real he must also be the ego.

Perhaps in reality nothing can be said about God.

a reply to: midicon
The mind is clever at times but to the heart this matters not.

originally posted by: ancientthunder
a reply to: midicon
The mind is clever at times but to the heart this matters not.

Nice answer.

That is why we cannot talk about God.

Who is it that feels the stirring of the heart?

originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: arpgme

God is Truth. God is Love. Heaven is God's world and God is Truth so Heaven is the only reality and every other world is illusion, but the SPIRIT/LOVE is always real because that is what God is. When you die, only the SPIRIT/PURITY/Hot White Light/Love remains. The ego will eventually die because only The Spirit is eternal.

What is truth other than reality?
What is love other than a feeling?
Define heaven.
If this world is an illusion then where is the real one?
If God is real he must also be the ego.
Perhaps in reality nothing can be said about God.

Lolz Heaven is an illusion too, all existance at all levels are just elaborate illusions, in the higher worlds they are more in touch with the divine nature of it all but its still juat an illusion. Only that which we would call infinate god or the supream counsiousness is real.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Lolz Heaven is an illusion too, all existance at all levels are just elaborate illusions, in the higher worlds they are more in touch with the divine nature of it all but its still juat an illusion. Only that which we would call infinate god or the supream counsiousness is real.

If existence is an illusion are you saying we don't exist and this conversation isn't happening? I am not sure what you mean by higher or divine. We have everything right here, nothing more is required. I also have no idea about an infinite God or supreme consciousness or some such. If any of that is true then I am already that.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

That's so dangerous and so very much the very core of the problems mankind is facing right now. You are the one killing mankind with spouting that kind of bs... This leads to "I don't care, god will handle it" and we keep going down the drain and wonder why.

originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: ancientthunder
a reply to: midicon
The mind is clever at times but to the heart this matters not.

Who is it that feels the stirring of the heart?

The one who has no need for i.d.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Yes infinite parts of infnity, but like fractals, which can be different, but here in this holographic reality, each part of the hologram contains the whole, so we have both uniqueness and yet contain the whole. But Love is the only thing that can lighten the spirit, clear the mind, calm the distorted ripples in the pond of the mind, and allow us to rise through many layers of what could be all simulations. We could be in a hijacked simulation, within a simulation, within a simulation. I want to go home and bring everyone with me, healed up and kind.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

That's so dangerous and so very much the very core of the problems mankind is facing right now. You are the one killing mankind with spouting that kind of bs... This leads to "I don't care, god will handle it" and we keep going down the drain and wonder why.

I interpret the rhetoric of god in metaphysics in religious text as mere words of wisdom derived from people who exist in the same world we do.

God is the law of physics. The constraints and laws of physics that command- punishment, retribution, hunger, love and prosperity- god is all of the things we experience in the physical. Not a person but a medium- a fabric- God is just a personification of the material.

Heaven is the state of wisdom gained when you learn how to coexist with "god" (all others that exist within god, all others within the material world). Mutuality and respect is "heaven", a heightened form of awareness and culture. The reality of prosperity that "god" can give us if we follow these guidelines of wisdom.

Biblical text is just that. A clever metaphor to life and coexistence. A brilliant group of men came together and pooled their social wisdom at the time and personified it into a form that could be read and communicated as a story.

--- And.

While on the functional level, what we experience could be called "illusions" or reconstructions of energies that are around us, our complex system transforms them into forms our brain can communicate to our consciousness. These energies we sense are actually there. With our senses we can interpret and gauge to find where we are in this world and its infinity of shades. This is vital in order to enjoy the most magnificent part of our mixed physical/conscious lives. The ability to relate to, interact with and communicate with other people, listen to, console and empathize and to share our own creations and experiences.

Whether its from the bible, the quran, from life lessons etc. The most beautiful aspects of our realm are not only the physical beauty of this original realm we originate from and dwell within, but also the infinity of perspectives and possibilities that each unique and precious conscious entity can bring into it. And much of the value revolves around protecting and respecting these individuals. We are all beings so capable and miraculous. That's why practicing coexistence and respecting life is so important. Because we all deserve it and the world deserves us.

Should those energies and masses not combine in certain ways or should they be separated or destroyed. (Like starving to death, or being cut in half with a sword) it does destroy the vehicle that our consciousness is born into and communicates out from. That is death, and when the seat of your consciousness is destroyed, so is the consciousness. And there is no good reason to assume otherwise at this point except to manipulate the masses of starving desperate people into futility.

Give mortality the benefit of the doubt but strive for infinity with coexistence.

The truth is, this reality needs us as much as we need it. Much like we need it in order to exist, to gasp in awe of the endless beauty it produces and produced within it by us- and to do all of the things we cherish and to share, It needs us in order to be admired.

What is God?

Did God show it's presence to me in the form of a flash of light (enlightenment) so long ago? Was that God or my soul's inner light, or both merging?

Then again, could it have been my imagination or a longing for an all-powerful creator to intervene and save me?

originally posted by: arpgme
God/The Source is Power. Power is Light and Heat. Powerlessness is darkness and coldness. The Light holds information and The Heat is Love. The hot Light. s White because it is white light that forms all colors (which is why shinning light through a prism makes a rainbow).


Spirit is hot white light (The essence of Love). We all have Spirit within us. This is the meaning of the biblical saying " the body is the temple for the spirit). Spirit spreads and takes control of the body to be filled with Love which creates kindness with others and peace. The lack of power - the darknes - the ego - wants to leave the body empty and powerless and always longing it does this by making the body selfish and filled with fear for survival until this fear grows huge enough to leave the body empty of Love/Spirit.


God is Truth. God is Love. Heaven is God's world and God is Truth so Heaven is the only reality and every other world is illusion, but the SPIRIT/LOVE is always real because that is what God is. When you die, only the SPIRIT/PURITY/Hot White Light/Love remains. The ego will eventually die because only The Spirit is eternal.

So it is important to feel loved and to remind others that they are love because everything else will perish as it comes from illusion and this is why the darkness/demons/ego have fear.

Be aware that you SPIRIT and that is the only part of you that is eternal.


The Pure White Fire spreads making all feel loved while the darkness (lack of power) burns.

So when a kid burns to death in a fire or car crash, does that mean they got loved to death??? Or since "god is light and heat. So He personally tortured that kid?

originally posted by: Entreri06
So when a kid burns to death in a fire or car crash, does that mean they got loved to death??? Or since "god is light and heat. So He personally tortured that kid?

Hahahha

That's like saying that a nuclear bomb or the hot bullets that come out of a Gatling gun as they soak into your flesh and seer it off as you die are displays of love.

Nonsense. Hopefully nobody buys into this rhetoric that borders violent religious extremist.

The interpretation and or detection
of an omnipotent ETERNAL CREATOR
that Created us ALL* who make up the WHOLE

That is perceived and hypothesized by
its Creations
Who become more conscious and aware
as they evolve

Who is responsible for the growth settings that may be perhaps laid out by the more elder and or advanced CREATOR Creations to assist the growth and advancement-development of less advanced-developed CREATOR Creations...

Can be called GOD and be associated with LOVE

And all those WHO ARE CREATED EVEN IF THEY DOUBT THE CREATORS EXISTENCE
who decide to LIVE outside the belief of the CREATORS existence.

And decide to build their own kingdoms all why denying THE WHO CREATED THEM
ARE in many ways living within an illusion based on potential subjective beliefs
formulated with their OWN current level of AWARENESS.

An awareness level that still cannot recognize OBJECTIVE levels of awareness associated with reality.

Some may associate all that was Created or made for them to grow & live as LOVE Energy generated from the CREATOR of us ALL* as the CREATOR can be interpreted as showing love by Creating us.

Others may only view it scientifically and may spend many periods trying to find objectivity to the subject.
But how with a awareness level still within subjective boundaries of understanding can they find the OBJECTIVE TRUTH?

NAMASTE*******

But how with a awareness level still within subjective boundaries of understanding can they find the OBJECTIVE TRUTH?

They cannot.

a reply to: InTheLight

You beat me to it.

2nd

originally posted by: ISHAMAGI
First thing that brought me out of lurking in a long time. You have a firm misunderstanding of what darkness is and it's relationship to light..God..etc. Firstly the light cannot exist without the dark. God appeared in the void (darkness) and made the first movements of creation. Yes this creation was done with light, but since the darkness was first it cannot be evil, nor can it be an illusion. 'from the darkness must come the light'.

You see we live in material reality, the foundation of that reality is duality. The true reality, the other side, heaven, whatever you want to call it is the trinity meaning the unity of light and darkness. This cannot be accomplished in physical reality because physical/material reality is a construct of duality. We have good and evil, left and right, happy and sad because this differentiation, this separation is how you make our world, but this whole construct is all illusion.

When you pass to the other side much of what you thought was "you", you will find was just ego and constructs of physical reality. On the other side, the true timeless reality you will see an end to all separation. There will be both dark and light and they will blend seamlessly together. You will realize you are not alone, have never been alone. You are connected to billions of living souls in a sea of consciousness. Above that sea speaking from within and without at the same time is the creator/God etc. The creator will speak to you and through you at the same time, and the instant you rebel against his will you will be thrown back down to this physical/material reality to once again learn the hard way; consequences, reactions, karma they are all in operation here, but there these do not exist. You will be offered ample choice of which tasks you wish to perform in 'heaven' but one defiant word and bam, reincarnation. That is why I liken this to death and the other to life, and liken earth to a hell of sorts. The funny thing is people believe in a hell beyond this where the sinister are punished, that I'm afraid does not exist. A baby rapist and mother Theresa will go to the same place when they die but only one of them will have the understanding and experience to stay there. Whereas some will choose of their own volition to come back here.

No punishment or judgement awaits for you previous actions because time itself is an illusion, all actions are occurring simultaneously in the now. It is all about what you are doing in that instant, you will be judged in that instant, all instances all the time. There are no second chances on the other side, that is what this place is for, to teach us how to be perfect souls, yet most waste their time chasing frivolous possesions and lustful encounters.

An even bigger delusion, is that duality is the foundation of everything.

You are smart, but still finding solace in that which even high beings have been suckered into believing.

It amazes me that even the highest avatar consciousness have to nail themselves into such an obvious box to try and make themselves OKAY with what they think GOD is.

Ever contemplate anything off the beaten path ??

Duality is like the makeup on the face of the material, it is meant to hide, and it has done so well, but I have seen that the CREATOR , or whatever you like to call it, is certainly not responsible for this particular Universe, and has in fact been lost from itself far before a good many more.

Try to realize that a 27th Density Individual is trying to recreate the VOID, and having a dam tough time doing it....and try to think higher, we need you to.

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Imagine an ETERNAL CREATOR, who dissolved itself entirely in complete UNKNOWINGNESS..... and you may come closer to realizing that it is no longer there.

How many times did it take to offer real "Choice" before it realized that being an OBSERVER made SURE that nothing new or awesome could ever occur.

ERASURE, of the ETERNAL.

And now, beings so advanced beyond most hosts wildest dreams, are slowly falling and trying everything to find a way to put HUMPTY back together, and we find ourselves at the moment of truth.

That HUMANS, are a creation NOT of the ETERNAL but clearly of those that are not, and are trying everything in desperation to create a path back before it all, BEFORE ITS TOO LATE and everything descends into worsenesss, FOREVER.

Unfortunately, we see that THEY cannot come with us, and so now, after all the work, sacrifice to create this being, this form of a near perfect bridge between realms, ALL REALMS, they want to control it, stop it and in limiting us, have signed the death warrant, literally for ALL.

Going to be a great finish!

Some say god has forms and is formless as well. Formless is said to be superior to some while to others they prefer god to have form. Its really in the eye of the beholder.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Some say god has forms and is formless as well.

Does a waterfall ever form? Or is a waterfall a formless forming? It could be named a waterfall but the flow never stops to actually form anything in it.

Does now (the presence of the lord) ever truly form? Or is now a formless forming? It could be named now but the flow never really stops to form any 'thing' (solid form).

This is/you are the form of the lord - eternally changing.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Some say god has forms and is formless as well.

Does a waterfall ever form? Or is a waterfall a formless forming? It could be named a waterfall but the flow never stops to actually form anything in it.



Does now (the presence of the lord) ever truly form? Or is now a formless forming? It could be named now but the flow never really stops to form any 'thing' (solid form).



This is/you are the form of the lord - eternally changing.

Death could be seen as a transformation of awareness.