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For me it was Carlos Castenada. I think I read the whole series. They had a profound effect on me and I drew a lot of meaning from them. I was really disappointed but not surprised to learn he was a fraud. But you know what, bits and pieces of those books are still with me. Every time I see a bird fly by or some such thing, there is meaning there or a synchronicity of some sort. I owe that feeling to a fraud whose behavior was probably worse than Jacobs.
originally posted by: RedCairo
We don't know what it is or what it means yet. We don't need to know. The first thing is basically looking for patterns in the noise. There are concomitants to these experiences, and things happening before and after them, which you can also find patterns in. When you have a giant field of noise and you find repeating patterns, that's where your data is.
So then you can focus in on the things that loosely model the repeating patterns, leaving 50+% of the rest of it to be white noise until it isn't, and finally 'we have something to study' -- because while the details might be distinct to the individual, suddenly we are at least probably talking about something similar enough to be approximately the same thing.
At that point we aren't obsessing on whether someone is crazy. vs. lying, we're obsessing on "let's go ask those 400 people who reported 'blue gel' to tell us everything they can recall about it." And doing that might lead us to a vastly greater understanding about that element and what is immediately around it -- in terms of environment and experience.
And that might lead to more solid 'patterns' found in the concomitants for example.
We would skip the "oooh it's an alien is he lying?" and just move on to "Ok, enough people talk about blue gel -ish that there's likely something to this, let's see how the human-experience of it varies, and see what more we can learn in the process."
Of course that might be useful and productive for greater understanding so as a public-domain layman-research strategy it's unlikely to be employed.
So: patterns in the noise. Synchronicity of human experience suggests a pattern, and the more people, the more coincidence, the moreso.
PS too many words. I'm sleepy that always makes it worse.
originally posted by: Tangerine
I think this is a good approach. The problem is getting to the "experiencer" before their perception of the experience is tainted by other people's claims.
I recall reading Christopher O'Brien's Mysterious Valley and it resonated with me. His presentation of experiences was very disjointed and I remember thinking, "Yes, that's the way it is."
originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
I cant resist !
"so that must have quite a impact on your Brother, did this put a strain on the relationship at all ? I can imagine the synergy is strong within you two "
he's not looking now is he ?
*wrestles the keyboard back from the impious microfunbox , who , promptly vanishes with a giggle*
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
When I experience highly synchronous events, I run from it and deny it. It has plagued me most of my life.
originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
That is an interesting connection. Have you ever had sleep paralysis?
No, I haven't. I've heard of it, people sometimes say they have run into legendary metaphysical Beings or even so-called 'aliens' in that state (I reserve judgement on how much of one of those constitutes the other).
Then there's the critics who seem to think that anything experienced in that state is a hallucination, I'm not clear on why.
It's simply that whatever dream 'frequency layer' you happen to be perceptually-standing-in, the locals call it reality, and generally think nothing else is real.
originally posted by: DarthFazer
I often find myself repeating myself when it comes to this topic in particular but that is OK.
After heavily reading any material I could find from Bud Hopkins to Jacobs to Mack to countless other researchers I came to one conclusion.
These beings are not evil per say as we understand evil is a human trait but that these beings are simply indifferent to us. Just as we are with animals. Do we slaughter chickens because we are evil ? Do we experiment on rats seeking cures and medical breakthrough 's ? Of course not. From an Alien perspective they see us as thier lessers and who can blame them if the shoe is on the other foot and if they were at our mercy we would dissect them and want to know what makes them tick. And apparently we allready have according to reputable sources.
It appears they operate on a metaphysical level almost supernatural to us but really to them it is superscience. Given they are light years ahead of us we cant grasp the magnificence of their tech. Missing time and high strangeness for example.
They do seem to return us after being taken well that we know of but not always. Missing planes , people mysteriously vanish in thin air by the thousands and no trace after no remains nada. This is where ufology takes a dark turn. There seems to be a sort of brain washing and indoctrination of abductees to accept these beings and have some bond with them. Apparently screened memories and memory blocks are planted to hide layers of memories of a negative terrifying experience. And these are the people who remember. Thery is most abductees have no idea they have been abducted. This could range in the billions for all we know.
So you see where and why the cover up comes in. Knowing our governments are powerless to stop it. Even our governments could be under mind control and we would never know. If you look at the nefarious actions of the ptb that could be why. I know this sounds like ramblings if a mad man and I wish it was the case but everything points to this.
A few president's hinted around and warned us. But it went over our heads. The Military industrial complex the black budget is not spending trillions on mundayne stuff folks. Clandestine agencies that do not exist that do exist without congressional oversight working in tandem with ET's. The abduction phenomenon is far too consistent to be night terrors and old hag syndrome. You cant argue with the numbers.
Blue Shift see alien implantation and Roger Lier. Metallic isotopes only found in meteorites dont just show up in human bodies. Not to mention giving off a frequency. There is ton as of physphysical evidence-based data accumulated over the decades. Ive seen people sent to death row with less evidence. It's not fringe science it is an inconvenient truth.