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originally posted by: Maslo
You are right that some people are taking advantage of the situation, but lets not pretend that extremist islam is not a serious problem (and lets not pretend that Soviet Russia was not a serious threat too - 40 years of communist dictatorship had a big negative effect on my country and many others, and I am pretty offended that you would trivialize them to a "boogeyman" as if the threat of communism was not real).
originally posted by: VonDutch
Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population.
Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?
I believe that the possibility exists that any event could be a false flag. Does that help? There is not nearly enough information yet for that determination to be addressed or rationally debated.
originally posted by: Bluesma
...The threat is very real in France, and the post by VonDutch illustrated well why. We have cities that are 50% Muslim here. That entails a lot of things- like schools (which have both muslim and non-muslim students) obligated to serve lunches that are only Hallal to everyone...
Of course, I have had personal attacks upon my home and family by these young muslims (while they were still not yet solicited by the radical groups) so my view may be highly biased...
I don't know. But I know the situation here is very volatile and has very little to do with what many americans experience in their own homeland.
Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts that are intended to create fear (terror); are perpetrated for a religious, political, or ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (e.g., neutral military personnel or civilians). Another common definition is political or religious violence by non-state actors. Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war. The use of similar tactics by criminal organizations for protection rackets or to enforce a code of silence is usually not labeled terrorism, though these same actions may be labeled terrorism when done by a politically motivated group. Usage of the term has also been criticized for its frequent undue equating with Islamism or jihadism, while ignoring non-Islamic organizations or individuals. In the international community, terrorism has no legally binding, criminal law definition....
Definitions of Terrorism in the U.S. Code
18 U.S.C. § 2331 defines "international terrorism" and "domestic terrorism" for purposes of Chapter 113B of the Code, entitled "Terrorism”:
"International terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S., or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.*
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term "federal crime of terrorism" as an offense that:
Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct; and
Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930(c) (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).
* FISA defines "international terrorism" in a nearly identical way, replacing "primarily" outside the U.S. with "totally" outside the U.S. 50 U.S.C. § 1801(c).
There are some individuals that are using a peaceful religion and grossly distorting it, and trying to use its tenets to inspire people around the globe to carry out acts of violence. And we have enjoyed significant success in enlisting leaders in the Muslim community, like I said, both in the United States and around the world to condemn that kind of messaging, to condemn those efforts to radicalize individuals, and to be clear about what the tenets of Islam actually are. And we’re going to redouble those efforts in the days and weeks ahead.
One of the quotes from the White House that Breitbart contends is the Obama administration cheerleading for Islam.
I do thank you for posting, as you've proven my point that radicalization and blind hatred are a two way street.
Bombing for peace my ass. We are bombing for Wal Marts and the public acceptance of a surveillance state.
We have been divided by rhetoric, manipulation, and lies - on both sides - and our house is falling.
Any possible validity of your point is going to be wa?shed over by pointing at the source -an anonymous poster on a fringe conspiracy site preaching to the choir.