Michio Kaku & Galactic Colonization

It would be awesome to travel to the moon via a space elevator.

I like the magnetic space lift idea........

originally posted by: Signals
It may not take us anytime at all.

Imagine an advanced race showing up tomorrow with interstellar travel abilities.

They share the tech with us, and *poof* here we go!

Interstellar travel abilities to a civilization that refuses to use their turn signals or drive in the proper lane while texting on a goddamn cell phone; endangering the lives of other members of the collective.

I think an advanced race has more sense than to trust us with that kind of tech. When the star lords stop off at terra it's only to get pizza and a few Lady gaga CDs; for some strange reason they still like her music.

1: Ppl always come to threads like these
and starts saying "we must learn to take of our world first"
a) if we were not 7b ppl here we wouldnt need all those things
No need for things no need to exploit the way we do...
Thus, alot of us need to leave or die, id chose the first.
2: Wormholes and time dilation? Hmmm doesnt compute...
3: It will take 1000s of billions of years to have the need
to colonise other galaxies...

originally posted by: Miccey
1: Ppl always come to threads like these

and starts saying "we must learn to take of our world first"

a) if we were not 7b ppl here we wouldnt need all those things

No need for things no need to exploit the way we do...

Thus, alot of us need to leave or die, id chose the first.

2: Wormholes and time dilation? Hmmm doesnt compute...

3: It will take 1000s of billions of years to have the need

to colonise other galaxies...

I know right the naysayers have thier way with it rather than discussing the topic presented.

Just an idea. . . . I think thousands of space colonies may be the answer we are looking for.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Just an idea. . . . I think thousands of space colonies may be the answer we are looking for.

Then perhaps we should look to see if any one else out there has already built them? Most of the galaxy is 2 billion years older than our solar system so there would be plenty of time for someone else to have done it. So we may as well look for them right? There are people doing just that..

Excerpt from this fascinating article on astroarcheology: Distant Ruins: Searching for the Ruins of Alien Civilizations

The field’s deeper thinkers are starting to wonder if there might be other ways to search. Milan Ćirković, from the Astronomical Observatory of Belgrade, has suggested we go after large artificial objects in transiting orbits. He says we ought to look for something like the huge space colonies once championed by Gerard O’Neill, structures that could be involved in large-scale industrial operations, which might be furnaces for antimatter. If so, their existence could be confirmed by the detection of unusual gamma ray signatures. Alien engineers might even manipulate their own central star. In 1957, Fritz Zwicky suggested that civilisations could fire fuel pellets into their local stars, to move their solar systems to new locations, especially when interstellar dangers loomed. Forty years later, the physicist Leonid Shkadov suggested that huge spherical mirrors could be built to accomplish the same thing, by creating a feedback effect from the star’s radiation, that would let its creators control the star’s trajectory through the galaxy.

Interstellar archaeologists are forced to wonder what structures like these might look like from a distance of thousands or tens of thousands of light years. Fortunately, they can tinker with different signatures, because we already have a vast trove of star data to trawl. With detailed information on billions of systems sitting on our servers, and processing power whose growth shows no signs of slowing, we can tune our algorithms to search for transit signatures that could flag engineering projects of immense scale. In the age of big data, it is possible that evidence of an extraterrestrial civilisation is already hiding in our archives.

Hehe Jade i hear what your saying
but 7bil ppl is waaay ovekill to do the same...
Why not do both..

Some look, some prepare, some build

That way, WHEN we find either, were ready to go there....

How about we just have robots build everything for us!

originally posted by: InfinityandBeyond
Global Colonization by whom? If we find a planet to live on and have the technology to do so...why would the general public be allowed to go when rich lives matter more?

The trick with planetary colonization by humans is that once a small population is established on any planet, it will quickly breed to fill up the available space, and then block further colonists from landing. So unless someone is among the very first to show up, they're not going to be welcome. Chances are that they'll still just be part of the poor slobs left on Earth. So I guess it might make more sense for these people to organize and take care of the Earth anyway -- limit population growth and develop better self-renewing systems for agriculture, water, etc. -- rather than pinning all their hopes on evacuation to a new planet.

Just 3d print a moon colony FTW!

We could just colonize various big astroids we find in space that would be a good start!

You are aware that you as a species, are far more likely to be annexed into an existing coalition than you are if starting one...

Some of your greatest thinkers posed the question about the great radio silence.
Did they ever stop to think it was deliberate..

No such existing power would welcome in a species that hasn't proved it is peaceful and willing or even able to contribute.

When you reach the right level of development and demonstrate the correct abilities, then you will find out your universe is already widely colonized

originally posted by: AmmonSeth
Some of your greatest thinkers posed the question about the great radio silence.
Did they ever stop to think it was deliberate..

Sure. That's one possibility. If the galaxy/universe is chock full of aggressive predatory species (and there are reasons why that might be the case), blasting an unnatural radio signal out into space could be the equivalent of ringing a dinner bell.

originally posted by: AmmonSeth
You are aware that you as a species, are far more likely to be annexed into an existing coalition than you are if starting one...



Some of your greatest thinkers posed the question about the great radio silence.

Did they ever stop to think it was deliberate..



No such existing power would welcome in a species that hasn't proved it is peaceful and willing or even able to contribute.



When you reach the right level of development and demonstrate the correct abilities, then you will find out your universe is already widely colonized

Or just begin making changes for the better in our civilizations, we can learn from other forms of life as well if we are open to that.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: AmmonSeth

Or just begin making changes for the better in our civilizations, we can learn from other forms of life as well if we are open to that.

Theres a fundamental flaw in that...
Other liforms has the same agenda, humans has 7billions....
Each one has it own....

originally posted by: Miccey

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: AmmonSeth

Or just begin making changes for the better in our civilizations, we can learn from other forms of life as well if we are open to that.

Theres a fundamental flaw in that...

Other liforms has the same agenda, humans has 7billions....

Each one has it own....

Its not a competition its space exploration. . . .

I think the Nanobot idea is a very good one, we could get nanobots to build entire planetoids for us. . . .

Space colonies may be the best idea via a maglev space launcher.

originally posted by: AmmonSeth
You are aware that you as a species, are far more likely to be annexed into an existing coalition than you are if starting one...

Some of your greatest thinkers posed the question about the great radio silence.
Did they ever stop to think it was deliberate..

No such existing power would welcome in a species that hasn't proved it is peaceful and willing or even able to contribute.

When you reach the right level of development and demonstrate the correct abilities, then you will find out your universe is already widely colonized

Are you not human yourself?

I like it how this thread has gathered gods and lords.

There is supposed to be a space elevator in the works. Supposed to be done by 2050, I dunno if I will be around to see it as that is a ways off. Its a good start I just wonder if the public would be allowed to use it?

We have the tech to start a colony on the Moon. Have for quite some time. We simply don't have the impetus to do so. Not much there for us. Like all settlements, there must be some kind of a DRAW for people to go there. So far, just the sheer novelty of being on the moon.

But, if we were to build a spaceport there, then inevitably, a colony would expand there.