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Obama to propose 2 free years of community college

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posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 10:54 AM
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SERIOUSLY ?

What is it with this guy.

Hell since the government took over student loans it has skyrocketed to over 1.2 trillion dollars.

Now he wants another helping of stupid ?

Yo Obama stop writing checks YOU KNOW we can't cash.




posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 10:57 AM
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Another bewildering question that needs to be asked is why didn't Obama want this in 2009 or 2010?

He had more support then than now.

Looks like the Democrat Party is throwing as many small petty issues into the mix because they are out of big impact tricks.

2016.Democrat Party.Meltdown




posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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Another bewildering question that needs to be asked is why didn't Obama want this in 2009 or 2010?


Barack Obama's 2012 campaign was based partially on his promise to address the cost and quality of education.


I'm running to make sure that by the end of this decade, more of our citizens hold college degrees than any nation on Earth. I want to help our schools hire and reward the best teachers, especially in math and science. I want to give 2 million more Americans the chance to go to community colleges and learn the skills that local businesses are looking for right now. In the 21st century, higher education cannot be a luxury; it is an economic imperative that every American should be able to afford. And we're going to make that happen.

– July 23, 2012, Oakland, California rally



I'm running to make sure that America once again leads the world in educating our kids, training our workers. Our tuition tax credit has saved millions of families thousands of dollars. I want to extend it.

– July 10, 2012, Cedar Rapids, Iowa rally



I want to hire new teachers, especially in math and science. Help 2 million people go to community colleges to train for the jobs that businesses are hiring for right now. And I want to make sure that every young person can afford to go to college. We have already expanded student aid; now we need to bring tuitions down. That's why I'm running for president – to give our young people a chance.

– August 8, 2012, Grand Junction, Colorado event


SOURCE

If Obama hadn't made these recommendations then the left would have accused of not keeping his promises.

My daughter's humongous students loans are now under control and there is a good solid hope that they'll be forgiven in about 8 years, due to Obama's student loan repaying reforms. As long as she stays in academia, which is her chosen niche in her field of medical research, for 10 years, her loans will be forgiven. Of course she has to keep paying them in the meantime, but due to the new regs, she is able to get married now, without her husband's income affecting her student loan monthly payments.

If she decides to take her career outside of academia, into the private sector, competitive salary wages in that field would cover the entire amount her student debt in one year's annual salary.




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posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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I saw this coming when Obama took over the entire student loan program and made it illegal from private banks to make student loans.

Actually that is only a half truth. The government did not make it illegal for banks to make student loans. Obama took away the government subsidy that banks were getting from the government to make these loans. The banks can still make them but without the subsidy they was getting from the government so the interest rates will be higher because of this.


Now the Feds get to control who gets the money.

Yes and because of this the interest rates will be lower than they were when going through the banks.


And anybody who dares speak out against it will be labeled "anti-education" and be accused of wanting to deprive poor kids (black) from their rightful education.

Or people will ask you why don't you want the people to be educated without going broke.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Good idea.
It shall help many



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: Hefficide

Only in America could we find people who don't see the benefit of an educated youth. Sigh.


Most college degrees aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

Taken a good look at 'colllege' courses lately ?

theeconomiccollapseblog.com...

'Educated' youths eh.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: neo96

When was the last time you were in college? Did they have electives and filler courses when you went? Because I just graduated from college a few years back and didn't take a single class as silly as any of those, and even if I had, I'd still have to take and pass all my major classes.

Your point is absurd, pretending like filler classes are some new invention of the lazy generation.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: windword

But why not 2009 or 2010?

What makes this issue more important now rather than 6 years ago?

Puzzling.

And remember .....

Your banker went to college !!!



And every financial crisis and breakdown was caused by people with higher educations.




posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You're right - why didn't he fix everything there was to be fixed in the first year? DUH.

I can't believe that you are saying education is now a bad thing. Shame on you.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

He was dealing with the issues from his previous campaign. Onward, upward and forward!



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Point is absurd ?

If I am going to spend thousands of dollars on an 'education'.

Better to spend cash on something USEFUL.

The only thing that is absurd is the state of education in this country.

www.onlineuniversities.com...

There's a hundred more.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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Do you not know how electives work? Because you seem to be feigning ignorance on how they do. Just because I may take a course on Philosophy and Star Trek doesn't mean my entire course load is filled with those courses. I STILL have to pass all my major classes. And I STILL have to get better grades in those classes than I do for an elective class. None of the classes in your link are majors. They are ALL electives. Students aren't majoring in those studies, just studying them for fun.
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posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: neo96

When was the last time you were in college? Did they have electives and filler courses when you went? Because I just graduated from college a few years back and didn't take a single class as silly as any of those, and even if I had, I'd still have to take and pass all my major classes.

Your point is absurd, pretending like filler classes are some new invention of the lazy generation.


Sorry but these 'filler courses' cost money. I'd rather see fewer electives which would translate to fewer hours required to graduate. That in turn would make education cheaper and graduates would be out earlier with less debt and looking for jobs to pay off said debt. These silly courses simply add to the debt students are incurring.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Interesting idea, with a very large price tag.


It's an investment. And probably a wise investment; well educated people are a nations biggest asset in these days of abundant mondial availability of cheap labour.



It's a shame, really. This should have been tackled 6 years ago when the money was instead being wasted on continuation of wars for other people's supposed freedoms and corporate bailouts... now the country is just too damn broke for this to realistically be in the books.


Agree, but that's water under the bridge. Better late than never, I'd say. And if you simply tax the large corporations that will benefit from a well educated population in the end, you can pay for it. Plenty of money is available, it's just that too few have too much and too many too little.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: Khaleesi

I'd rather see government get out of college funding so that the price for college can go back down and students can be free to take a class that explores something others would find as silly just for the fun of it. Why can't education be fun?



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Khaleesi

I'd rather see government get out of college funding so that the price for college can go back down and students can be free to take a class that explores something others would find as silly just for the fun of it. Why can't education be fun?


I'm talking solely from the perspective of cost. Frankly, if there were no electives, the students would have more free time to 'have fun'. They could form groups to discuss Star Trek for free, no course fee required.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

It isn't free...Someone will be paying for it. Oh forgot. The tax payer is the evil scapegoat these days.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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He apparently forgot that Republicans has the choke hold at the moment.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'm quite disappointed by Obama's performance in general, but this is a move i can support without reservation.

Education is at the heart of a thriving economy, individual and social mobility and great for industry, ultimately.

ALL education ought to be cost free IMO, but a couple of free years to get one's feet wet is a great move.



posted on Jan, 9 2015 @ 12:28 PM
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how about spending that 34 billion in trying to bring manufacturing jobs back to the u.s.




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