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The Loss of Femininity in The USA

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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
And the opening lines of the OP, that women make as much or more as men do now. My wife doesn't. The guys in her work department make a lot more than she does for the same job. That's why we need feminism, right there. Just saying.


So we need feminism because your wife doesn't make as much as a male?

Did your wife choose her career, job, the place she works, or did someone force her into that position?

I worked in the auto industry here in the Detroit area for many years, and saw females with little, or no experience get Plant managers positions because they were female, while their male counterparts that had years of experience got bypassed. The blade swings both ways these days.

I know plenty of women that own business and multi-millionares by their own doing, and they let no one stand in their way.

A corporate pie is divide up by those in charge, sometimes it's dominated by men, so of course women will get exploited.

My point here is people keep fighting an old system, instead of trying to start a new one.

If a person is strong enough they will not stand around and except crumbs, they will go out and find their own loaf of bread to eat, or a group of people that will share their equally.

Peace,

RT


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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

That is by design.

Most people don't believe it, but depopulation is going to start world wide within 20 years.

Why do the elite want depopulation?
Because robotics and 3D printing will soon eliminate the vast majority of jobs
We will need a much lower population very quickly

What better way than to norm the elimination of gender behavior that
attracts the opposite sex?

Also, norming porn use at home
which has nearly destroyed the Japanese.

So teaching women to abandon femininity
and teaching men to abandon masculinity
and encourage self sexual satisfaction through porn
or friends with benefits

Will even more quickly depopulate
which the elite see will soon
be quite necessary
or there will be massive revolution
due to a lack of jobs
for the "little people"



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
a reply to: MALBOSIA

Why do the elite want depopulation?
Because robotics and 3D printing will soon eliminate the vast majority of jobs
We will need a much lower population very quickly


I don't believe that, I believe it'll be more like Elysium and the rich get all the tech while another group in society will continue on in the old fashioned way. There'll be fields being worked by robots and there will be fields worked by humans, one farm will distribute to the rich and elite and the other will distribute to the masses. Segregation will return only not based on race/DNA but hightech or lowtech.



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: stardust22..

While you make an excellent, idealistic point, it also denies millenia of cultural and biological norms.



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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Anyways nature will always find new ways. There'll just be more feminin males and masculin females, it'll become socially accepted and they'll hook up and live happily ever after. It's just centuries old indoctrination about masculinity and femininity that needs a few generations to adapt and change, while in the middle of it this is difficult.



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: amazing
And the opening lines of the OP, that women make as much or more as men do now. My wife doesn't. The guys in her work department make a lot more than she does for the same job. That's why we need feminism, right there. Just saying.


So we need feminism because your wife doesn't make as much as a male?

Did your wife choose her career, job, the place she works, or did someone force her into that position?

I worked in the auto industry here in the Detroit area for many years, and saw females with little, or no experience get Plant managers positions because they were female, while their male counterparts that had years of experience got bypassed. The blade swings both ways these days.

I know plenty of women that own business and multi-millionares by their own doing, and they let no one stand in their way.

A corporate pie is divide up by those in charge, sometimes it's dominated by men, so of course women will get exploited.

My point here is people keep fighting an old system, instead of trying to start a new one.

If a person is strong enough they will not stand around and except crumbs, they will go out and find their own loaf of bread to eat, or a group of people that will share their equally.

Peace,

RT



Good points and not arguing them. I'm just saying, that the very root of feminism is women fighting for equality. Maybe it's morphed into something different for some women and situations today. But fighting for equal pay for the same work when equally qualified is feminism. That's all I'm saying.



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: stardust22..

While you make an excellent, idealistic point, it also denies millenia of cultural and biological norms.



Look how far our society has come in the last 50 years, but it has come at a cost.

Everything in our materialist world and culture came from ideals, in fact, everything that exist in this material world is an idealistic foundation that came from somewhere.

I think what has happened is things have changed so quickly that most people don't know which way is up.

But who knows maybe because the world population has grown so large that intolerance, lack of empathy, and coldness are a side effect that we all have to endure, until things balance themselves out.

I think my main concerns are for the young ones that need nurturing, care and also look to their parents as role model to acquire the skills they will need to be successful.

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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:27 PM
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This is just my perspective...

The problem is NOT the loss of femininity.

Women, in a word filled with [snipped] boy men, have no choice but to live more in their masculine energy.

Guys - it's up to you to step up. Be knights. Quit trying to appease women.

That doesn't mean being a jerk. It means owning yourself. Own that you're a man.

Mature masculine energy means you would #ing DIE for your woman, your family.

Be self-soothing. Hurt feelings? Go hang out with your buddies, don't whine to your woman.

Woman are supposed to be different. They're supposed to test you.

If you can't handle their "storms" how are you going to protect them and your family from the outside world?

It's not unnatural for women to live in their masculine energy if they feel like nobody has their back.

Man the # up, gentlemen.
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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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I'm a male feminist

When I used to go out on dates I would insist that the woman to "Go Dutch" on the dinner and movie.

That probably explain why I was a virgin till i was 24...



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:38 PM
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GENETIC ENHANCEMENT TRANSMISSION...

If the hunter gather WAS the determination in the past
and now the female has adjusted to the workforce environments and many other like life settings...
of the male

There may be a requirement for some of the males to regain of what was the determination of difference in the past
like settings...

So the hunter is then exposed to settings that regenerate the genetic layouts VIA some form of events that cause the males to
be placed in forced like life settings where they become the
hunters AGAIN...

ex-
if there was say a process that caused . .. ...
and that in turn caused a response of protect the many
those men and women also who would be able to fight off said walking z-ction
would eventually cause regeneration within the genetics present during a z. ..n (tshtf) process as they spent one or more generations supporting and PROTECTING the families as well as going out to HUNT for food for the families.

workforce upgraded genetically --- ALREADY
Survival upgrade genetically --- PROCESSING
RESULT upgraded genetics on BOTH eventually gens down the line.

Transmission closed



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: Jamie1
Mature masculine energy means you would F#@king DIE for your woman, your family.


I would rather opt for becoming more homogenous and going through a lot for someone else should be considered a human quality rather than masculin or feminin. Women walk out on males just as well, how sour it must be to love a woman, gave her everything and she took it to someone else and left you with the bills.


Be self-soothing. Hurt feelings? Go hang out with your buddies, don't whine to your woman.


In the past, whining was the difference between getting or not getting (or at least less of a chance to get) prey. Keep whining and the tribe would know you were one of the weaker hunters. These days such things matter less, one can whine at a grocery store and the food isn't going to run away. At best people might cut in line and disregard such persons more easily knowing they'll probably let someone walk over them.

Yet at the same time women demand men to open up, share their feelings, express themselves. These must be the most confusing of times, not even touching the idea males and females might become worthless altogether to elements of society with the looming robot revolutions and all the social changes that holds.
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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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a lot of my female friends in high school had little patience with guys because the guys would break their hearts and use them, my good friend was beautiful, smart, had everything going for her, and dated a huge jerk, and she became jaded. but I know there are millions of women who are very attracted to a$$holes. anyway, it can be very liberating, empowering and very feminine for a woman to be a dominatrix, even though a dominatrix may be in charge, it can be a woman feel beautiful and great about herself.
theres just too many losers out there compared to the amount of qualified GF'S/wives, not to mention all the ugly, wrinkly, fat disgusting women out there



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: Jamie1
It's not unnatural for women to live in their masculine energy if they feel like nobody has their back.

Man the F#(K up, gentlemen.


I'm not quite sure why you feel the need to use foul language to get your point across, and it's also against the ATS T&C, but I'll try to address your comment.

Then maybe they should continue to live there, because us men are not going to try to pull them out of their shells. People can only change themselves.

It's not our jobs anymore, women want equality, and to be left to make judgments on their own.

So your attempt at drama and trolling has only backfired imo.



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: johnnyjoe1979

originally posted by: Jamie1
Mature masculine energy means you would F#@king DIE for your woman, your family.


I would rather opt for becoming more homogenous and going through a lot for someone else should be considered a human quality rather than masculin or feminin. Women walk out on males just as well, how sour it must be to love a woman, gave her everything and she took it to someone else and left you with the bills.


Be self-soothing. Hurt feelings? Go hang out with your buddies, don't whine to your woman.


In the past, whining was the difference between getting or not getting (or at least less of a chance to get) prey. Keep whining and the tribe would know you were one of the weaker hunters. These days such things matter less, one can whine at a grocery store and the food isn't going to run away. At best people might cut in line and disregard such persons more easily knowing they'll probably let someone walk over them.

Yet at the same time women demand men to open up, share their feelings, express themselves. These must be the most confusing of times, not even touching the idea males and females might become worthless altogether to elements of society with the looming robot revolutions and all the social changes that holds.


I'm not making value judgments, or telling anybody how to be. Just observing the real world.

You want to attract feminine energy? Use masculine energy. It's about polarity.

You want to have sucky, dead relationship? Try to be neutral. Unless you want to be in the friend zone. Then go for it.

Sexual attraction is by definition about polarity. Generically it's about mating and passing down your DNA. It's an evolutionary advantage for females of every species to mate with the strongest males.

Here's the MILLION dollar secret.... trust me on this.

Yes, woman want you to open up. They want you to express your emotions. What that really means is they want you to be PRESENT when you're talking with them.

When you're talking with a woman. she is the only thing in your world that exists. Listen like your life depended on it. Focus on her like she's the only living being in your universe. When she asks you a question, man up and be direct an honest, don't try to guess what she wants to hear. Own yourself.

Yes, food won't run away if you whine. Women will. No women I've ever met likes to be around a whiny dude.

When women tell you things, LISTEN, don't try to fix them. Let them talk, and be present, until they're done talking. And when you think they''re done telling you something, say these three magic words: "Tell me more...."

But you really have to CARE and want to hear more. She is your gift from the universe. Treat her like you really believe it.



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: Jamie1

Not arguing what you say most alpha men know all of this information, but that's not what the thread is about.

It's about the loss of femininity.

You sound younger and may lack some life experience, but that's ok, it will come in time.


Women may not want to admit it, but if everyone listens very closely like you suggested, then most men will know that many women today have lost that side of themselves.

Men can "Man up" all they want, but when you have two people in a household, or a relationship that are manning up one person either gives up, or gives in, and the relationship is doomed to fail.
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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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I always thought I was very feminine and maternal, was a tomboy all my life went hunting and fishing with my boyfriends, loved all sports, wore levis and flannel shirts, biker boots, rode a harley, cussed like a sailor, still do.

No man ever kicked me out of bed, lol, will you still love me when I'm 64?

Now I'm old.

sucks


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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: Jamie1
You want to attract feminine energy? Use masculine energy. It's about polarity.


I would want to use the Force, however I would be at best, cheating (as in not real), according to the group I belong to in society which dictates I may not wield that until I have a number of achievements, which I haven't got yet. And I would likely end up as some woman's boytoy I'm afraid but thanks for the info nonetheless.
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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: Jamie1

Not arguing what you say most alpha men know all of this information, but that's not what the thread is about.

It's about the loss of femininity.

You sound younger and may lack some life experience, but that's ok, it will come in time.


Women may not want to admit it, but if everyone listens very closely like you suggested, then most men will know that many women today have lost that side of themselves.

Men can "Man up" all they want, but when you have two people in a household, or a relationship that are manning up one person either gives up, or gives in, and the relationship is doomed to fail.


No, I get it.

You are 100% right. A lot of women live in their masculine energy.

But women just don't "man down" because you tell them to or want them to.

If a woman is in her masculine energy it's because there is no male energy around her that makes her feel safe.

Try it.



posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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This isn't only about US you know. US is just way ahead of the game in corruption. It is the whole western life style of the planet. Women wanted to have jobs that men do. Now they got some. No longer do they act like proper women in the past. Some of them act like greedy business men now a days. A lot of rich ones are really spoiled. They are worst than Men when it comes to being spoiled. You no longer see the house wife doing any work for cleaning and growing food. They just hire other people to do it(Mostly Mexicans on US side).




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posted on Jan, 8 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: Jamie1

But women just don't "man down" because you tell them to or want them to.

If a woman is in her masculine energy it's because there is no male energy around her that makes her feel safe.

Try it.


You'll have no argument from me on that statement.

Men should never really whine to women, unfortunately it's a sign of weakness and even though women may nurture that emotion for a time, they will eventually think of their male counterpart as spineless.

The delicate balance is something of an art-form these days and lie's between not being a over-powering douche-bag vs. a jellyfish with no spine, but yes making a women feel safe is very important.

Women like strong men physically, mentally, and emotionally.




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