A twist in the MH370 tale...If the plane wasn't important, who was?

a reply to: strongfp





The effects of electricity on the liquid metal

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: andy1972

Sorry to do this after the effort you put into transcribing the video, but the patent theory has been debunked months ago..

www.snopes.com...

i love how snopes takes unverifiable crap theories and throws unverifiable crap presumptions at them and calls them debunked.

the blind arguing with the blind.

Many Theories For The Strange Dissapearance of MH370

Could it be Bush revenge for the Malaysian war crimes tribunal? Could it be Israeli revenge for the Malaysian acts against humanity tribunal?
Or could it just be the old constant of insurance fraud? You be the judge 2.25 Billion MH370 Insurance Scam

There is a conspiracy about flight MH370, no doubt about it.

There is something inside me that always pointed towards the idea that SOME people on that plane needed to die/vanish from existence.

This new theory about the "liquid metal" patent is very very interesting...

I'm extrapolating a lot here but maybe people from the future made the plane disappear for the sake of humanity.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: andy1972

Sorry to do this after the effort you put into transcribing the video, but the patent theory has been debunked months ago..

www.snopes.com...

you do know snopes is just a guy and his wife right? they arent scientist, or investigators.
its just a blog

a reply to: okamitengu

So, you should be able to prove that they're wrong then, right?

a reply to: andy1972

Shortly after the MH370 vanished, Russia did say;, 'Perhaps it landed in Kazakhistan '........

originally posted by: steaming
a reply to: andy1972

Shortly after the MH370 vanished, Russia did say;, 'Perhaps it landed in Kazakhistan '........

Uyghur territory.

Since there has been no wreckage discovered in the ocean, this theory is becoming more and more plausible.

If one considers the possibility that the hijackers never intended for MH370 to make another take-off, but brought her down hard, the number of possible crash-landing locations multiplies exponentially.

Maybe they were attempting to abduct 200 plus hostages with which to force demands upon China?

a reply to: Psynic

Well, considering the númber of terror attacks of late attributed to uyghur muslims in China, the posibility that they would hijack a plane full of Chinese wouldn't be unthinkable.

In discoveries of this calibur, the entire braintrust never travels together.
That would be the disclaimer to me that would just make it more Bunk.

What stands out to this day, is that not one piece of that aircraft has been found, and that says it is not in the ocean.
That would be the only real logic that stands up to any scrutiny, IMHO.

a reply to: charlyv

I stood less than 1000yds from a four engine jet which struck the water at a shallow angle and was able to observe the fuselage breaking into sections every ten feet or so in that split second. Within a minute there was debris at the surface and a massive fuel slick.

So we agree the plane didn't crash in the sea or a populated area and I, personally don't believe the whole Diego Garcia scenario. Neither the, "pilot wanted to crash into a fortified military base" or the "US Government abducts 100s of innocent people" are believable to me.

What's left?

Kazakhstan.

Just happens to be directly on the "Northern Arc", not that there is necessarily any credibility for Inmarsat's opinion.

Could a skilled pilot set a 777 down in an off airport location somewhere in terrorist held territories? Not necessarily somewhere from which it could fly out of, just walk away from.

I think so.

Terrorist acts are an attempt to garner attention to a cause and denial is one of the few defences from it.

That's what this non-sensical cover-up has always been about.

Damage control via non-acknowledgement.

a reply to: Psynic

I suppose that is a possibility, but it seems that too many people would be involved, and the information would eventually get out.

I also do not think that Diego Garcia had any role in this as well. If that was ever proven, I do not think the US or the UK would weather that fallout well either. A mystery of the first order.

originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: Psynic

I suppose that is a possibility, but it seems that too many people would be involved, and the information would eventually get out.

The information has gotten "out", repeatedly, and repeatedly has been denied. There have been Uyghur claims of responsibility that the MSM refuse to acknowledge.

Is that any more unbelievable than the utterly false lies and misinformation that spews from Tony Abbott at the start of each new season?

This series of Malaysian aviation disasters has been an unprecedented war on the truth. Threats, claims, lies and denials comprise the arsenal and the future of civil aviation hangs in the balance.

This man of uyghur descent was on on bordo 35-year-old passenger of Uighur descent..

The article says:
"Besides extensive teaching and research experience in electronics, biomedical, and digital communications, the man had also spent slightly less than a year in 2004 as a researcher at a training and simulation centre in Sweden.

He “designed an integrated future soldier training system based on sensors, communication subsystems and integrated-helmet subsystems and performed simulations for real-time,” according to the CV."

So, this person wasn't a fool...but was he capable of taking over the plane?

originally posted by: andy1972

So, this person wasn't a fool...but was he capable of taking over the plane?

Perhaps, or perhaps it was the passenger known as Mohd Khairul, a flight engineer with Execujet.

www.dailymail.co.uk... firm-involved-hijacking.html

Pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, and co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid could have worked together or separately to hijack the aircraft. There are factors supporting either hypothesis.

These theories will remain as speculation as long as TPTB continue to utilize a strategy of stalling and covering up.

If you step in dog sh!t, leave it alone and it will eventually turn to dust and blow away.

What would the odds be, that MH370 crashed in uninhabited mountains?

It seems that it would be easier to locate, but looking around the net, I dug up this article about 7 other aircraft, of which no trace was ever found of them.

I thought it would be interesting to post, but I am sure it has been mentioned in other threads:

Source: METRO (UK) Aircraft Never Found

1. Flying Tiger Line Flight 739

The chartered military flight from California to Vietnam in 1962 was carrying 107 passengers, including 93 U.S. soldiers when it disappeared.

After refuelling at Guam (a teeny tiny island in the western Pacific Ocean) the flight headed towards the Philippines before disappearing totally from radar without any distress calls to radio operators, prompting investigators to suspect the aircraft had exploded in flight. No wreckage was ever found, despite 200,000 square miles being searched over eight days.

The really weird part? Another military plane, carrying secret cargo rather than soldiers, also departed from the same Californian airport at a similar time to flight 739. It too crashed. Eerie, right?



2. Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 2501

It’s the evening of June 23 1950 and flight 2501 has set out from New York to Seattle with 55 passengers and three crew members. Its last known location was 3,500 feet over Lake Michigan when it suddenly disappeared from radar, only moments after requesting clearance to drop to 2,500 feet.

Despite the lake being dredged and search teams investigating, no wreckage was ever located. Although in 2008, a researcher believed that she had found an unmarked grave containing the bodies of the victims, that had been buried by locals without the authorities or families’ knowledge after they had washed up on shore… spooky.



3. Glenn Miller’s plane

In case you didn’t know (we didn’t) Glenn Miller was a big name in the Forties. He was a big band musician from the swing era and was travelling to entertain U.S. troops in France during WW2 when the plane he was travelling on went missing over the English Channel.

There’s several theories about what happened to him, including that his plane was accidentally bombed by friendly fire when military planes flying back from Germany offloaded their remaining artillery into a designated space that then clashed with Miller’s flight route.

Although, we much prefer the theory that he did make it to France but his death was covered up the next day after he suffered a heart attack during a liaison with a prostitute.



4. Frederick Valentich and his plane

The 20-year-old Australian UFO enthusiast was taking a routine 150-mile training flight in a light aircraft when he mentioned to radio controllers that there was another plane following him.

Seconds later he declared ‘it’s not an aircraft’ and his transmission was interrupted by scraping, metallic noises.

He was never seen again (this was in 1978, BTW). Officials speculated that Valentich had become disorientated and had seen his own reflection in water, seeing as there was no known air traffic near him, but fellow UFO fans believe he was abducted. Others believed he staged his own disappearance. Good.



5. Atlantic C-124 disappearance

In 1951 a military flight, from New Mexico to Suffolk, England, had to stage an emergency landing in the sea following an in-flight fire. Despite the landing going well and a successful evacuation taking place, when rescuers arrived on scene there was no sign of any of the 53 passengers of the aircraft.

The rafts and flares had, however, been spotted earlier when another plane had flown over the area. So where had they gone? Some speculate that Soviet submarines operating in the area at the time (about 500 miles west of Shannon, Ireland) snatched them. Ooh.



6. Canadian Pacific Air Lines Douglas DC-4

A routine flight from Vancouver, Canada to Japan in 151 turned sour when it failed to turn up to its scheduled stopover in Anchorage, Alaska.

Visibility at the time of the flight was 500m, with heavy rain and ice reported.

The aircraft and its 37 passengers were declared missing but no wreckage has even been found. In fact, there’s not even a recorded probably cause. No one has any idea what happened. Kind of tempting to go out and explore Alaska for it, isn’t it? Or is that just us?



7. BSAA Star Ariel

The pilot of the BSAA Star Ariel, flying from Bermuda to Kingston, Jamaica, reported that he had ‘excellent visibility’ as he flew the 13 passengers over the Atlantic Ocean in 1951.

His last check-in with air traffic controllers was to let them know he was descending to a lower flying level, but at no point showed any sign of distress.

In the search that ensued, no debris, oil slicks or wreckage were found. The fact that there was no May Day call, bad weather or plane defects caused many to believe that it had been lost to the legendary Bermuda Triangle.

a reply to: andy1972

If I'm not mistaken, this effect is not new. This is modification of surface tension by use of an electric field. It is used to create variable focal length lens.

You won't built a Terminator using this effect and it does not worth killing for...

a reply to: PeterMcFly

You're right, the concept is decades old.
Magnetorheological shock absorbers have been available since the '98 Cadillac.

What might be "worth killing for" would be nuclear weapon components and that is exactly what Barry mentioned in his Malaysian address.

www.reuters.com...

"One of the greatest threats to US security" (17:00-)